The Man Who Ate His Lover
Consider the following story line for the ultimate video nasty. Single man meets radical male masochist on the Internet. On their first date, the masochist offers up his penis as main course in a romantic dinner for two. After some teething problems over the best way to prepare the food, the two men enjoy a meal of garnished genitals. Satiated, and feeling woozy, the masochist is led upstairs to the bathroom, where he is left to bleed to death. Hours later, our host pops in to see how his date is doing, and finishes him off with a knife to the throat. He then butchers the body and barbecues the meat.
Even as fiction, this extreme tale of human weirdness would be difficult to stomach. So how do we respond when two middle-aged computer engineers turn this incredulous plot into jaw-dropping fact? Two words: shock and awe. Just when you thought you'd heard it all, along comes a German cannibal, Armin Meiwes, and his willing victim, Bernd-Juergen Brandes, to rewrite the book of bizarre human behavior. Rarely has a criminal investigation aroused such ghoulish curiosity or raised such difficult questions about the dark places that the human mind can go.
Amid the media scramble surrounding the recent courtroom drama, there has been a clamour to understand and to explain this behavior, which, incidentally, is not even illegal under either German or British law. In desperation, we turn to science for answers. What can rational objectivity tell us about such irrational acts of violence and mutilation? Perhaps not very much. But with little else to go on, we must be content with what morsels of knowledge we can find.
No one has mentioned that the "victim" DID NOT consent to having a knife rammed through his throat. That was not the agreed manner of death. Yes, he consented to the rest, but this is a very important point.
Says something about this planet that in a documentary about a sadistic cannibal he seems nicer than some of his neighbours.
I know I'll probably get sh_t for this, and I can't say that I'd really blame anyone for doing so, but I can empathise with Armin. I mean, we all should to at least a very, very small fraction of a percent. He grew up without a father...his mother absolutely smothered him, and he seemed to not really have anyone to turn to. At all. The kid had to make an invisible friend for goodness' sake. Sure, what he did was an 'abomination' - I get that, but at least recognise the fact that he didn't have a happy childhood. Isolation is an awful thing. It truly is.
I'm a bit too open-minded for my own good - surprised it's not gotten me into trouble - but for those reasons I can empathise with his obsession with consuming an actual person to 'always have them' with him. I had thought this story was going to be about a real relationship, where it'd been physical for a while, etc, and culminated at the consumption...but I guess it didn't turn out like that. I'd of understood it a bit better if that'd of been the case.
Bottom line is that some people just see things so very differently. And they feel things differently than the average person. They get deep into things, and so on. I'm not necessarily condoning what was done, but...
you suck
It is saying that it is true, but if it were fiction, it would be hard to understand
umm....so i feel like alot of people are missing the part where this is a piece of fiction, disqusting and horrific as it is. Its just as fake as the human centipied for example. Whitch is also a movie that will make you feel sick to your stomach.
It's not fiction. 'So how do we respond when two middle-aged computer engineers turn this incredulous plot into jaw-dropping fact?'
This is the sickest thing I've ever seen in my life! Words cannot express the horror of Meiwes's actions as well as that Brandes would allow himself to be subjected as a piece of meat such as cow, or pig. I think both parties had extreme issues, and it is both their faults for this end. I find the whole scenario to be quite disturbing in the sense that..Why would you want someone, even as a fetish, to eat you? I remember hearing of a group of men as a LAST RESORT, in dire conditions, that they'd eat each other to stay alive in a harsh environment, and even in that situation. Me as a person, I'd rather die then be food for someone else's sustenance. Life is sacred, if you have such issues that you wish to be someone else's food..Please seek help, think of the people who'd miss you, family, friends..I am a man myself, and I value my life as well as I value others. I have both cried and thrown up while watching this..this is beyond monstrous. This is complete evil..and a man's wish to be that evil's meal. I truely hope Meiwes burns in hell (and this is coming from an Agnostic person.)
In regards to what you remember hearing about a "group of men":
In 1972 there was plane crash in the Andes that was carrying 45 people including the Uruguay rugby team, friends, family and crew. Sixteen survived the crash and subsequent avalanche. After almost 72 days in the freezing cold (@ 11,800 feet); all hope lost; food and water gone, they had no choice but to cannibalize the dead to stay alive in hopes of being rescued.
A movie was made about this disaster and is titled, "Alive".
Ok let me get this right...
Germany is just A Place of Carnibalism???
1. I rember long ago a person told me about a movie from a german Productor name "Cannibal"???
wich there was this theory tht was made with human FLESH!! grose..
and
2. i see this documentary and im so SHOCK!!
3. huh? only 8- years? you do that in America and u,ll get death road! pa'l
SICKO!
4. so he was gonna get out of jail in 4 years? that was in 2004?
and now we are in 2012 that means hes already been hanging out around where he lives..? just like that?
a treath to society???
5. hOW can u or anybody proof that that guy really wanted to be eaten??? thats not suicidal thats just nuts!! he didnt take hes own life this franky guy took it!! so thats not a suicide person!!
and also the documentary said that the guy took sleeping pills and all that stuff that means he was not fully ok with the situation, when somebody do something because she/he wants this persons do it without drug efects
that is when is her/he's will's//
4. Wtf!!!
1. What was made with human flesh?
2. Your not in shock your just living without a brain.
3. In Europe 8 years is a long time.. in USA they kill people for having oil, knowing the truth or just for fun.
4. Meiwes was arrested in December 2002,
On 30 January 2004, Meiwes was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to eight years in prison.
In April 2005, a German court ordered a retrial. On 10 May 2006, a court in Frankfurt convicted Meiwes of murder and sentenced him to life imprisonment. So he has been in jail since he got arrested, and he never was a thread to society, only suicidals.
5. Proof is on, an over 2 hour long video tape.. and sleeping pills is not a mind altering drug.. he was fully ok with the situration, but not ok with the pain from where his man-hut used to be.
The only point I want to reply to is #4:
You have to look at actions like this almost as a drug... he had problems all the way leading up to this occurrence. He needed more and more to satisfy his screwed up fetishes. This is what it took to get that much further. You just have to think about what the next step would be. How could he go even further, had he gotten away with this? The imagination is the only answer and I can tell you, I'd be scared to see what this guy might eventually do, if he were allowed to continue walking the streets.
As for everything else, I love it. lol
something PSYCHOLOGY CAN'T EXPLAIN
X_x thats just sickooo
wow, after watching this im really glad that plain old sex with the wife and internet porn excite me, i would hate to have to go that far just to get my yah-yahs off!
WTF DID I JUST WATCHED THIS IS HORRIBLE MAN! Damn! man im only 16 and i feel like some kinda sadness i cant describe.......... How could Some one do something like that.... :| ? FUkin Monsters
i wonder how many of u sick ***** masturbated to this
@jbriggs_87: If you actually watched the documentary, there's nothing to masturbate to. It describes the events and its effect on the people around the two men involved.
But since you raised the question, now I'm wondering about you....
Wow, relativism at it's most ghoulish? How can you people say this isn't morally wrong or sick? I don't care what anyone says, no one will ever change my mind, eating a human being is wrong, especially in this situation where it's not even for survival or in the most extreme of survival circumstances. People die in famines and do not resort to eating another human being, that says something about it. I don't care if there's consent or not; there are somethings sacred to me and this is without a doubt one of them.
Assisted suicide is wrong because no one can EVER tell whether or not it was assisted or not. That's the problem. One person can leave a note, a video or whatever, but you can't really prove it. What if they were forced to leave a statement saying they wanted to be killed? Furthermore, is it okay to have a society where it's "okay" to kill people? Not in my opinion. People who desire to be "eaten" should be HELPED, because something is wrong with them.
To me, assisted suicide could only mean its done in a hospital. Something that is discussed by the individual and doctors. It would go through a bureaucratic process before hand. The only way it could be done if it were legal. But even that wouldn't work because you can always argue the mental state of the individual at the time of their request.
The way to a man's heart is through his ribcage.
How is this "sick"? We're talking about two consentual adults.
would you consent?, if not then is it some way "sick" to you too?, perhaps a lesser degree but it is still on the spectrum of gross and sick lol
sick sick sick
I remember seeing a movie where a man fell in love with a woman so much that he wanted to be "one with her". To her horror, she discovered what he meant by that: he wanted her to eat him, literally. Kill him and eat his body. At first, she refused. Then, she eventually gave in. They set up the stage for his last supper, and her last supper with him. Going along his wishes, she tied him to a cross to immobilize him, used a knife to execute him and decapitate him. She set his decapitated head at one end of the supper table, probably so he could "watch" while she roasted his heart, kidneys and liver on a barbecue. She took a few bites of each, to fill her end of the "bargain". A neighbor made the gruesome discovery and called the police. She went to jail for murder. The man's mother, hearing that this woman had killed her "boy", hired an inmate to rough her up to get revenge. Was she a murderer, even if she acted on his wishes? Was cannibalism the ultimate expression of love, when one is willing to die for the one they love?
wow. people can be very extreme and i find this very interesting. I guess I can understand that this could be a threat to people in a way. But more to Peoples sense of convention. If a grown man goes out for years to seek another grown man to kill and eat him and finally finds him, why is this wrong? I guess I have a warped sense of reality. It's against the law, and suicide is against the law too, even assisted suicide for a person that is in so much pain they cant go on living. Its inhumane to assist a human in death, but humane to put down a animal.
I could understand if he brainwashed his friend or did the act against his friends will, however this was two adults consenting.
If he was let out to do it again he could take it to the next step and murder, which is very bad, however if he just did as he has done with his friend perhaps he is doing a service.
Or perhaps I am to open minded.
I think being off balance is the first way of tumbling down and becoming well rounded..
This was an okay documentary in my opinion. It wasn't too interesting, I feel like it could have been shortened into a 10 minute thing so watching it for that long was somewhat boring. Not the most intriguing documentary out there. If you're looking for something interesting about the mind or something abnormal try looking at the multiple personalities one- it is awesome!
it was okay. really got in depth to something that has never been focused on before.
The German band Rammstein used this story as inspiration for their song called "Mein Teil", literally translated as "My Part".
The first part of the song includes a band member speaking the classified Meiwes put in the paper: "Suche gut gebauten Achtzehn- bis Dreißigjährigen zum Schlachten – Der Metzgermeister" -- "Looking for a well built 18 to 30 year old to be slaughtered - The Master Butcher".
Great song, strange story.
The first time I heard about that story was when I listened to that song. Rammstein is my favorite band! Yeah, I know this is kind of irrelevant, but I'm just glad someone else knows the song.
Germans are eye openers to many such things. :>
i love Rammstein, and i love Mein Teil -- i think they did it justice.
This is the most gruesome thing I have ever seen in a documentary apart 'ZOO'.
I've heard about ZOO but can't get up the courage to watch that one. It's just horrible what happened at that place.
wow. you should watch earthlings.. :>
People all over do things that I wouldn't want to do myself. I think consent plays a really large part in this to me. They said he let anyone call it roleplay and chicken out without retribution so he kept his boundaries and didn't demand that they follow through with it all showing that he doesn't sound like someone that would just roam around his village for victims. He wanted consent, not someone against it.
When I think about this story I'm reminded of assisted suicide.
Since I would like suicide to be legalized because I believe that our bodies are own own, not property of a state, I guess I can see a time when consentually someone agrees to this and it could be accepted.
The part that is tied to it tho is not just the death but the consumption.
It sounds sick of course to want to eat humans because I can barely eat some animal meats but if it were all consentual I suppose in a society where you allow someone to eat other humans if they choose to be eaten... well... how can you deny it. It's what both parties wish to happen. I could justify it the same way that a suicidal person in pain asks a doctor to destroy them and offers their body parts to medical research or transplants. Ultimately, if you choose for you flesh to be eaten as your final wish or your eyeballs to be reused, aren't they both the same thing, domain over your parts after you are gone...
The kicker for me has to be consent. If I don't want to die by your hand, no you can't kill me even if I look tasty. That would have to stay a law in this silly society I just imagined lol
How can you prove consent that a person wanted this? That's why assisted suicide is illegal. Because there can never be any proof of the consent. Sure, they can write a letter or do a video testimonial, but how do you know if that's not under duress? The person is dead; their wishes are gone with them. Any sick murder can claim they wanted to die, hell some killers say that today.
I think this is sick. Having such a callous disregard for human life is not the right way to have a functioning society, imo. I'm not talking about you, but what you described.
How can you prove consent that a person wanted this? That's why assisted suicide is illegal. Because there can never be any proof of the consent. Sure, they can write a letter or do a video testimonial, but how do you know if that's not under duress?
That is a weak argument. There are definately ways, and I've seen them, of ensuring no force, fraud, or coercian is involved. If you watched "How To Die In Oregon" or the BBC documentary hosted by Terry Pratchett that argument will fall to pieces. Regardless of whether or not we like something, that is not the issue at hand: Civil liberties are the issue.
But in the case of this documentary...yeah, I would rather not leave this door open for those who are obviously mentally ill, not terminally ill, and are more perverse as opposed to suffering.
PS, if you looked into how these programs and laws(especially in Oregon and Switzerland) worked you will also find various professional safegaurds and regulations that ensure, under severe penalities, that necessary conditions are met before the PATIENT administers the lethal dose. In no current legal assisted suicide law is there provisions for doctors, nurses, or anyone OTHER THAN THE PATIENT to administer the dose.
They never showed shyte ......... I ve met worse unfortunately an in some areas still to this day do it on a regular basis........ this was fun to watch but nt shocking to me...... interesting to see the witnesses talk , the ones that knew him anyway ...... takes all kinds , ya know. life is............ ?
very true people! there is also been a movie made about this ordeal. a gem and very hard to find called "cannibal". *CAUTION* not for the squeamish. you will seriously feel the need to take a shower after watching!
The "BME olympics" video is a hoax/fake. Gave me a huge relief when I learned that but never the less you're better off not watching it.
Penis bbq? Am I reading this correctly? LOL, I think I'll have to watch some of this to believe it. I heard of a gross, disgusting immoral short video online called the BME olympics or simply called the spankwire video, as I believe it was originally posted on the porn site spankwire, regardless, I have not seen this 2-3 minute video, but I was warned not to, and many, many ppl who've watched it wish they never did, so I refuse to watch it....I'm sure many reading this will be googling the bme olypics immediately, but don't say I didn't warn you!! DON"T WATCH IT!!