Sex: The Annabel Chong Story
This is the original notorious documentary about porn star Annabel Chong, who achieved the first world record for taking the most sexual partners in one day.
The film was nominated for the 1999 Sundance Grand Jury Prize and wowed audiences around the world.
It's a revealing documentary that covers two years in the life of Annabel Chong (nee Grace Quek). As Quek, she is a feminist who is receiving her bachelor's degree at the University of Southern California.
As Chong, she is a porn actress who breaks a world record by having sex with two hundred fifty-one men in a ten hour span. The conflicting personas of Quek/Chong eventually come to blows, resulting in an emotional reunion with her mother in her native Singapore.
We find that Annabel saw this feat as an empowering act, a step forward in her self-styled feminist movement.
wow this reminds me of a lebanese girl i knew. she had 2 sides to her but wasn't an obvious drug addict like this woman. she did have a split personality though and f***ed so many guys, thought she was unique and special but just a lost person on the inside
If Sadaam were alive to see this, he'd say, "mother of all cheap tricks"
(actually, he was alive back then). No, he'd actually say, "mother of all vvhore")
I always find people's views on sex hilarious. Those who've made us view what's basically a natural enjoyable act (much like eating, drinking, scratching your ass) as an evil thing put upon us to challenge and prove our worth to a higher power, should have a think about not (as you say) how wrong or vile or sad this woman is, but that rarely in the comments pertaining to her being a "whore" or "slut" or whatever, do I read a mention from those same minds of the ethical and moral value of the 251 men who fu*ked her. I guess that's why women who have lots of sex are whores to be degraded and men who have sex are "studs" and we raise our glasses to them. Everyone is exploited, you just won't be remembered for yours.
I don't know if a guy who puts it where 250 other guys just did counts as a "stud" exactly
this is noting just a world record...and she had the capacity....no one is perfect to blame...but if you think she is doing wrong don't be one among 251,,, :)...and good thing is she is not hurting any one but just giving pleasure to 251 frustrated dicks...
don't get surprised or angry because soon some other crazy one is going to brake this record..
then may be she realize what she had done
is this be the honour of mankind?I think pigs are even better than her bcz they also never joined a single female in such a number. A world ever shameful act by a human.
why just her? why don't the 250 guys get any of your scorn?
having sex with 251 is not an achievement it is a cheap act of laying down and make her ass accessible by any one ....
Would 252 make it an achievement?
the depravity to which she sank is beyond words. SHE is marked for life with this and she has to live with it. To be in the absolute most discusting of the human race is not an achievement. This spits in the face of all mankind. Where to point the finger? she is a puppet one can see. possibly society for allowing this to happen! most hiddious. Sexual exploitation at a new HIGH (low). One should feel guilty if you find ANY sort of pleasure in porn viewing. What about your spouse? Do you not think they deserve you? evil if at all you can define it. degrading to women and men.
Who the hell are you to be passing judgment over what one should feel if one derives pleasure from viewing porn? A person's private conduct is none of your goddam business!
This story is still getting attention.. YIKES
After reading some of these comments I get the impression that no one is treating this girl with any kind of respect, everybody assumes she doesn't know what she wants, like she's to dumb to know what she wants to do. Also her morality seems fine to me and I'm 100% serious she's not killing anyone, she's not rude to anyone, she's just trying to make it in this world while hurting absolutely no one. This is not tragic, sorry, but tragic is a school shooting or a murder or a child with cancer, but this is just a young girl who found a way to make her mark in this world and make a living, really she's business savvy, she found a gimmick and ran with it. I'm sure I would never of heard of her if she never did this anyway nevermind that she will be financially set for life.
Maybe we didn't watch the same doc.. LOL. She wasn't making a whole lot more than any of the other girls despite her apparent "fame". She didn't even get paid for her biggest gig. Beauty fades, and this girl didn't seem as though she was rolling in riches. It was repeatedly mentioned in the documentary the struggles she'd had with money.
Denial is a powerful thing, and it seemed to me that she had some delusions about how to take control of her own life while remaining true to herself and her family. I found it to be incredibly heartbreaking to watch this lost girl try to make her way in the world while dealing with baggage like rape trauma and the illusion that sexuality = power.
The only thing more sad than watching her struggle, was watching those around her take advantage of her.
hmmmm. make her mark in the world? what non-sense is this? a person having sex in marathon status is an achievement? have u lost your mind? I must be in hell with this sort of trash all around me...
This is a tragic. As for myself I only could see a woman crying out in pain and for attention. This woman have many mental issues she need to combat.
oh my god the intro she made to her gang bang looked like a parody of itself.
If you don't get the point maybe you should watch it again, and again and again LOL
Would have really appreciate a trigger warning in regards to cutting being shown.
This documentary shows some interesting stuff but it is horribly done.
Well, her parents must be proud.
Do you think Linda Chambers made her parents proud?
Oh, poor silly girl : If you wanna bang or shag the whole male population , that's your problem .
Just do not make it sound as if you were some new feminist struggling for womens' rights or as if you were some sort of an idealistic chick , because it's just does not add up ,come on .
This was a long doc, which left me with more questions than answers.
I felt horrified as I watched this woman make a train wreck out of her life.
People who knew her made her out to be so intelligent! Really?
She allowed herself to be exploited by people like John Bowen.
She was such an unhappy person, claiming to be empowering herself.
Empowered people don't cut themselves or have unprotected sex.
Just out of curiosity, I'm going to google her real name to see if she ever got her act together.
"Empowered people don't cut themselves and have unprotected sex"
you may want to research that opinion before spouting it...the rates of depression amongst intelligent/educated/emowered people are quite high, a large number self harm...and as for unprotected sex, don't most powerful/empowered people in history leave a long train of bastards in their wake?
Which empowered people self harm?
Empowered people don't self-harm and make videos of themselves screwing boatloads of people, unprotected.
Empowered people have self-esteem.
And I wasn't "spouting" this. I was simply making a comment.
You can refute this all you want-that's my opinion and you have yours.
I feel no need to embark on intensive research to back up my statement.
I feel no need to embark on intensive research to back up my statement.
replace intensive with any and i'd be inclined to agree with you.
As i'm sure you can appreciate i don't know all of them, hardly any of them in fact, but the most prolific of which i think is probably Vincent Van Gough, Kurt Cobain, Amy Winehouse, Colin Farral, Megan Fox, Sid Vicious, Princess Diana, Johnny Depp. all these people have a history of self harm dispite being quite powerful and certainly empowered.
Ah, I see your point now.
gosh sorry redwine i didn't realise it was you that posted that comment...i might not have dipped it in venom if i had noticed.
Lol. I was visiting my ancient parents at the time, in BC, minding my own business.
I wondered why your knickers were in an uproar.
Don't worry about it:)
That is one gross (and ugly) woman. Not to mention mentally unstable. "I've always had a complex about my body". The pornographers are great at finding these damaged humans. Can you imagine being the 251st guy? I love how they try to spin a whore into a hero. Who the hell are they trying to fool?
Make no mistake ladies. Even the pathetic losers that use whores (or porn) still understand they're the low class trash. The media would like you to believe otherwise, but that's how it works the world over, and all throughout history. No amount of anthropology classes at a state propaganda mill ( err school) is ever going to change that.
And just what's the matter with watching adult porn.
Maybe your impotence, and inability to find an actual normal woman, aren't a problem for you. But they would be for a normal man like me. Therefore, I avoid the mistakes you seem to relish.
Non-responsive.
Would you agree if your daughter (even though i don't think you have kids) was in one of them?
1i
Yes. If it's adult porn, she'd be old enough to decide for herself. So I don't care.
I must say once again, i agree with you.
1i
Rather judgmental attitude, sounds like you have a little complex yourself...
Selling sex is the oldest trade for a reason. I've never used a prostitute personally, but I am LUCKY enough to have had a partner for the majority of my adult life... I do not look down on anybody who sells their own body for sex or buys it from a person who is making that personal choice. Pimps should be arrested, as should sex traffickers, but prostitution in safe brothels with obligatory worker drug tests and gov regulation should be legalized.
Since when does the school system encourage prostitution? You're probably somebody who disagrees with having many different sexual partners even if it's practiced safely. There's nothing morally or socially wrong with watching porn, but men who use it should be aware that it has the potential to be damaging psycho-sexually (any male reading this should do the research). I still love porn, I just stopped myself watching it after hearing about the potential harm :)
And just what research is this?
This is so sad, that someone would think this is an acceptable thing to do and even sadder that there are those that endorse it and take part. She is looking for approval in the wrong place. She has no self-respect or worth and thinks that using her sexuality in deviant ways makes her special. A woman's true sexuality has nothing to do with what she is doing. She needs a serious mental health check...she will never find any man who will want to have a real relationship with her. Its time as a society we stop endorsing and supporting pornography and women like her. She needs help not applause for this.
People have a right to watch adult pornography if they desire to. Mind your own business!
What kind of MAN would want to participate in the marathon? How gross! Are they that desperate?
1) Yes there are men that desperate. Go to any online dating site and you will see more than half the people there are NOT attractive (either sex). When you are not attractive you don't get sex!
2) Most of the men wore condoms. I would not participate myself, but when you look at it financially, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than wining and dining a woman for several dates only to be put in the friendzone
3) men are visual creatures. Porn will exist whether you like it or not.
4) Is participating any more gross than having sex with someone has had 10 or more partners?
5) Women give sex for love. Men give love for sex. Pure and simple.
I don't mind watching porn at all, but participating in a marathon like this could be pretty gross, you know, with all those germs from the guys who weren't wearing a condum. That's what I meant. Of course, everyone has had previous sexual partners, but one assumes they have since had a shower. With soap. Thanks for the feedback. Subject: [SeeUat videos] Re: Sex: The Annabel Chong Story
am i the only one disgusted here?
No you are not..mostafa eweda. Most of us are.. The only ones who seem to have anything to say as a bonus/possitive towards this have bumped their heads. Its a real shame.
What's a real shame?
How and why do the US authorities allow this legalised area of pornographic film-making to operate without a medical team?
Is it because the willing victims do not get paid by the film directors to be able to afford a lawyer to sue when they have literally f--ked up their lives in years to come? (No pun intended).
This was the 90s, I guess there may have been some legislation changes by now?
Annabel Chong: In Singapore, doesn't have thought police, people will do it for free to show what the good citizen they are.
After all that d*ck I don't think there is any p*ssy left lol just a very sour bucket haha
interesting... she said it, about the city, "there's an undercurrent of loneliness, sadness, and desperation"; could be said about her too. Lots of people will do lots of crazy s*it in trying to find and hold an identity...I just felt sad for her, that her rebellion, still did not bring her to herself. Did she make a statement for women's sexual freedom? I think hardly, cuz sexuality is only an exploration when your searching, the intention is that you get somewhere.Her softness does shine through; a good film maker; I wish her well...peace
I heard about this story in 2006, but have never seen it...
:-O that's put me right off my morning porridge.
She's ugly in more ways than one.
It's a credit to the educational systems across the Americas, run so much better than the parochial private systems that had to be fixed by governments who care so much for us that I may be subject to prosecution soon for having pirate light bulbs in my own house, that have so improved the quality of a college graduate that they hid behind fences built of sturdy terms like "Marxist Feminism" and for some reason not present in this well disiplined line of comments "fascist, you're a fascist". Don't shrink from your degrees in Midevil flute playing and the sons of the blue collar's favorites, BAs in chair caning and 4th century stained glass. Be proud, put the lifts back in your shoes and spend an afternoon viod of sentences with words like "hegemony" and the oh so addictive "feminazi". Just because you had the strength to throw off the yokes of studying pure sciences, to train your minds in the logic of physics it doesn't mean poor Miss Chong had the same strength of character the years of cheerleading brought you. Did she not know that when a man wrinkles his forehead in the presence of the mainstay of our civilization, the American Woman, she is from that point forward a victim, the possesor of a scarlet letter, so destroyed by that "act" of abuse that she is immediately placed in the rehabilative care of that holy section of the bar at the C Club, run by the victims of men or mysoginists, whichever cocktail you're on at 11:00 AM that she will need the money and time of our government from that point on?
Miss Chong is so well tuned, so capable of the animal survival instincts needed to survive in the face of almost immpossible hardships that she is capable of staying alive after life would have, to a man, killed all of us. Miss Chong has tuned herself to the elements and cruelties of life so well I can't tell you how much I admirer her. She screwed 215 guys, had every bit of her 30 pieces of silver stolen from her but managed to keep sane with just the tiniest of nourishment provided by allowing herself to think she was promoting feminism. What did Marx ever do to Bela Abzug anyway? Like a survivor of a concentration camp she cherishes the choclate of recognition provided by fat, ugly, old, evil men. She knows in her heart that she is flotsam but the narcotic warmth that the attention finally given by men with white hair provides that she awaits her next fix knowing full well that there's a woman in New Rochelle keeping the entire Roto Router staff in Westchester County happy just praying for the phone call that wiil bring her to "the Game". Miss Chong would be Darwin's favorite survivor. Pray that the Edsel, in which your soul exists, never has to keep up with the Ferrari that Miss Chong has evolved herself into. She has survived being born a woman in Singapore, a nation so on the lookout for gum that the possesion of which can only be compared to the subversive Americans hiding 60W bulbs in secret compartments under the old National Geographics. Until the parades for the homecoming drones happen bringing real control for Bubba's radio car gum in Singapore will get you 3 days in the clink.
For the man who's morals and warmth of his mate keep his sexual energies coralled, must have forgotten his teen years. I didn't. I would have screwed a wood pile if I thought I might hit a snake. I had an erection every morning so predictable, in 1st period that I carried a jacket year round and so did everyone else. Wisdom in old age does come. Listen carefully and tune down the TV because here comes the key to the universe. Whores screw for money and wives screw for refrigerators. Remember that Grasshopper and life will no longer be a mystery.
It fries me that the women who use sex so adroitly, as a yoke to steer their agendas are the 1st to identify the cruelties commited by men so vile that anything short of Gloria Aldred arriving on a flaming chariot would be an insult a woman wouldn't be subjected to the old testement, caused. If Henry V were alive today his offer of a kingdom for a horse would be changed to a kingdom for a gov't phone book. If you ask a lady architect, lawyer, doctor, engineer or Army officer if she makes as much as a male architect, lawyer,doctor, engineer or Army officer the answer questions were the pay inequality exists? There are pay differences as a species. Only the US would gladly tackle that one. I don't care what Gloria Stienham told you. You cannot breed and give your offspring the responsible attention they require and demand and be the head engineer at Boeing in the same lifetime. Welcome your choice in life. Don't look to be superior to a woman who may not be aware that braces exist The lack of any kind of self worth is common in Singapore where Chinese men rule absolute. That Miss Chong could convert her feeling of invisibility, of worthlessness into a power over a man so strong that the brevity of her recognition as the most important thing in a man's life, for only a few seconds, is worth it. She has worked her soul with such genius that even as the doormat for women that wouldn't let her do their nails on Saturday she silently plays the hand that life delt her and stays objective and looking towards the future with optimism in spite of a life Dickens seems have planned. Heed my words and make sure you're in her lifeboat.
Resolve your arrows to the real injustices of life. As indignant as the French Canadians can be, no one has stooped to punctuate their anger with phrases like hoser. Although my knowledge on this subject should be in the amateur column my impression was that a Canadian with a picture of the Queen in the foyer and more so in the western providences would be more inclined to be a hoser. The comedy routines from the great shows like the Red Green hour never used this phrase Hoser in reference to Montreal or Quebec. Rest easy mon ami! The English may be stuck with this one.
Good luck with Cardinal Oulette. I think he is too valuable behind the scenes and too hard to steer for the Italian clergy that give advice to the college of cardinals. A French Pope from Canada would not create more converts. There are no millions of unwashed to be won as prizes in Canada for a papal elevation. Africa, long ignored by the church is fertile ground. An Italian would be one too many around the Vatican. Remember Russia never tried to push communism into Italy because they knew any government there would fail. The American Jesuits have influence in interpreting policy such as women priests. I think they will want the child abuse finally handled with this new Pope. He may be a sacrifice whoever he is. Again Africa or to counter balance illegitamacy in S, America. For the 1st time a pope will not be ekevated in haste, I'm sure the college of cardinals have some notion. Thr requirements for a Pope in this decade have definately been written.
I have to stick up for the nurse who had to defend the comparison of straight teeth to pressed underware. If you have kids give them every oportunity for success. Straight teeth in your kids are more important than a fishing boat.
Am i the only person that would like to post a comment without it being recorded forever to haunt you and yours. You can't say boo without someone atributting it to yourself. That's Orwellian. Sometimes you get in the mood to fix something or play a little intellectual volleyball. Why does it have to be brought up at your confirmation hearing to be head Hoser?
"Am i the only person that would like to post a comment without it being recorded forever to haunt you and yours."
You should talk to Bill Gates. He has regrets, too.
Once on the keyboard, forever on the internet.
That's what I call a good "gish gallop" thank Zeus I can speed read. Must give you a like.
What a slut
and what are the males in this story?
They are mostly sad old perverts and definitely not sluts as that is a term with a very precise meaning: that of a woman with loose sexual morals.
I am not a fan of women reclaiming the term as a source of pride and also don't think that men can be called sluts, we have a host of other derogatory words that apply to us.
I have daughters, a sister and a mother and don't think that slutty behaviour should be encouraged, praised and held up as normal and healthy. But hey, that's me.
It is normal and healthy for a woman to have numerous sexual partners, just not to f*ck 200+ dudes in one sitting.
Saying that 'slutty' behaviour shouldn't be encouraged in women is the same as saying men shouldn't have numerous sexual partners either.
Not sure about that. Men are genetically designed to "wash and go" women aren't!
"Man hoes"?
. . . Marxist Feminism, Miss Chong, Darwin's favorite survivor, Roto Router, 60W bulbs in a secret compartment, woodpiles, snakes, erections, refrigerators, Gloria Stienham, straight teeth & fishing boats, the Pope.
Any one who can effectively string all this together in a coherent statement gets a "like" from me.
And it's these guys that are behind , push and profit from all this
sleeze that will get most of the hellish punishment ...
What a bunch of Uber disgusting crap ...
The bottom of the barrel ...
Luckilly , there are 28 hellish planets out there , to settle the score !!!
i really admire Grace for her strength of character and self-assurance. it's a real plus that she gets so much enjoyment out of sex without love -- something we think of as reserved only for men (see the Sex and the City episode where Carrie does just that). i used to work in an adult bookstore, have been naked in (only) one film, and don't see anything wrong in what she did. it was spectacular! and she's intelligent, too, which isn't very prevalent these days. more power to her.
Another exploited woman. How original.
What an asinine thing for anyone with any respect to call an accomplishment.
I remember clearly when this woman first accomplished her rather morally questionable feat. At the time I could only think of the depravity & level to which mankind had risen or sunk to. First, that someone would do this & second, that it would become such wide spread news of the time.
I have not changed my original opinions about this woman & the stunt she along with seemingly countless men performed back then. I will say though, as far as her intent to proclaim some sort of feministic superiority & female strength in her personal conquest of man, she is certainly correct in her position (pun intended) that women are stronger or at least have more stamina than men in certain areas. It is not only improbable but completely physically inconceivable that a man could do the same with 251 women in ten hours.
Regardless of her props, (deserved or not) I still find this entire exercise to be morally, psychologically, emotionally & on a human level, bankrupt. I would like to believe that there are critical differences in us as humans that make us different than a bunch of dogs shagging in alleys.
I guess for the sheer spectacle, it beats pogo sticking or hot dog eating for world records. Perhaps this is even more sensational than American Idol or Dancing With The Stars. Same level of moral ambiguity & overall depravity but more sensational just the same.
That people can & do reduce this to a purely physical action with no emotional intimacy is very sad indeed. I guess this has been an activity for all the ages with nothing more than physical satisfaction that makes me somewhat of an idealist, hopeless romantic or otherwise overly sensitive & dated in my ideas of intimacy.
It's not unique to see a woman in today's culture trying to assert her "femine-self" or whatever term you may use. I'ts made sex, which is a grand thing....boring in my view. What else is there to try!? Is it empowering just to have gone another step further? It may be more empowering for women, as well as men to get off this "Cyber-mania" because in so many regards, it's not the activity that empowers, but the exploitation of it which negates it.
What happened to the Golden Mean? One extreme to the other is a bad mind state. No one has to agree, because this is not a judgemental statement, just a rational point that's been around for ages. Argue with Aristotle. Best regards to all you seekers. Huh?
I do not agree with any of this. So wrong on so many levels.
you agreed enough to watch it!
1i
Happy to see we agree on things.
I like her baby picture. Already assuming the position.
Pope and porno. Somehow the juxtaposition is not surprising.
So going into the documentary I had never heard of this woman. I had no preconceived notions about her as a person or a pornographic actress. I am of the opinion that men and women who wish to participate in this industry should have every right to do so and shouldn't suffer the stigma foisted upon them by those on the extreme right and the extreme left wings of our society. So when Annabel/Grace layed down her spiel about sexual liberation and empowerment, I was ready to buy it.
But it didn't take long for clues to emerge that this woman was not being completely honest about her obvious issues. She casually mentions coming down off of drugs. She seems to have a fatalistic attitude about the risks involved with having sex with so many (as it turns out untested) sexual partners. There's something just a little unsettling about her fixed smile.
So it isn't terribly surprising when you learn about the repressive childhood, the gang rape, the self mutilation. It quickly becomes apparent that this is might not be a woman who is acting out of a desire to empower herself. She's might just be acting out. By the end of the documentary I found myself hoping that Annabel/Grace would come to her senses and get out of the industry, which seemed to be doing a great deal of harm to her.
Doing a little googling I found out that four years after this documentary was first screened, Grace finally retired Annabel Chong. She apparently works in web design, and doesn't discuss her past. I hope she's happy.
I truly hope she's happy too. It hurts to see people go that low. But there are consequences. She'll never have a normal man in her life. What normal man would want her? The whole thing is nothing but pure tragedy. At least when the Greeks did tragedy, everybody died at the end and was out of their misery. Now tragedy is just one long, boring descent into a hellish ennui....
So she had a love/hate relationship with cock, the camera and money. Who dosn't? Get over it and youselves.
i feel really sorry for this girl, caught up in a strange world where money and fame are the leaders. i wish i had the power to turn back time for her.
all them freaky guys pulling at their privates during the big bang session... trying to get stiff in public. lol porn has gone downhill.
I'm going to take a wild guess - Jeremy is now "Guest."
I think I know him! Wonderful guy.
I haven't watched the film, and probably won't, but has anyone watched "I, Claudius" from the BBC many years ago? It was on PBS in the US back in the 70's. I was fascinated by a few nude scenes on TV! I think it is on Netflix now.
Lydia or Julia, anyway, Augustus daughter took on the best prostitute in Rome to see who could do more men in one stretch. The daughter won - a one-way ticket out of town, courtesy of her father, the emperor of Rome.
OMG THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!
I'm kidding, it's just sex people, get over it.
I was there.I was the last man.I fell in !
Jeremy personalizes comments and probably gets an endorphin rush out of being abrasive and inflammatory.
Well said in explaining; haters' "chemical" addiction.
as do you it seems.
Her panache for sexual freedom, is commendable.
I think she likes to believe that her "going against the grain of what is socially acceptable" crusade is drowning out her emotional and mental health issues.
Its amazing to me how people seem to get sex all mixed up, both women and men. I have known guys that have either completely ruined or vastly complicated their life over simple sex. It controls everything thing they do, everything- what job they work, what car they drive, what clothes they wear, what music they listen to, right down to how they interact with others on an everyday basis. They can't have any kind of real relationship, not even with another guy as a friend, because eventually sex will get in between them and whomever they are around. I know women who are the same way, everything is somehow connected to sex. I'm sorry but i fail to see how having sex with a few hundred men or women in one day is in any way a statement of liberation. But hey, I can't see how pain could be pleasurable or domination could be affirming, but obviously others do. I would respect her more if she just said she wanted to get her rocks off while making a buck. What happened to sex being about either an expression of love, mutual pleasure, and/or procreation when desired? In my opinion if you remember sex means these things and only these things you will tend to have a more healthy relationship, a better image of your self, and a happier life in general.
Could not possibly agree more.
having sex with 251 men is not liberating, annabel, because you are acting within a male-dominated structure. It's still under question whether they f--ked you or you, them. I was impressed with your academic determination and the way you think. Hope you find a way that satisfies you fully.
That is a social problem and consequently mental illness
An over riding thought that I kept having through this was...Why didn't this woman get adequate dental care and braces to straighten her teeth. When growing up, my family always pointed out that with faces and smiles first to the world...having beautiful straight teeth was a very important indicator of self worth and self care...I had to skip a lot of this film...it seemed like a lot of energy spent in a futile direction.
Not everyone is as superficial as you are?
Beautiful straight teeth IS NOT an indicator of self worth and self care, are you 10?
It's an indication of your socio-economic situation OR (repeat OR) it can be NOTHING AT ALL because maybe she doesn't care or feel that she needs it.
I bet you are the type that would have told my ex GF to have her facial mole removed am I right?
Shallow and vapid.
I do agree that having straight teeth is an indication of socio-economic factors. It was my family who pointed this out...as an R.N. with a physician father...it was considered a health issue...poor dentition, etc. leading to gingivitis, bacterial infections in the blood stream, etc.
If a facial mole has potential for melanoma or that person wishes removal then it definitely should be removed. Did the mole bother you?
Generally, people reveal who they really are by projecting those qualities on others...I do collect a wealth of resource information over a period of time with objective data and collateral data before making any kind of assessments about people.
It is not my practice to make assumptions, nor do I care to diminish others.
Don't even try to flip this around, you said: "braces to straighten her teeth. When growing up, my family always pointed out that with faces and smiles first to the world...having beautiful straight teeth was a very important indicator of self worth and self care"
You made it completely obvious that you think her teeth look bad, not that they are "infected and unhealthy"
You're disgusting, seriously.
1. Her mole was the last thing I was concerned with, but "friends" I had during that time period made SURE to mention that "she could have that removed ya know" acting like they were helping me somehow, but it was not my place to tell her to change herself. What do you not understand about that, and no, it was more of a beauty mark than a mole, just not in the right place, more on her central forehead than by her mouth. Did it bother me? I think not, because that would be pretty effing shallow of me now wouldn't it?
2. It IS your practice to make assumptions, you assume that this woman has no clue what she needs or wants, you assume it is wrong in the first place, you assume she has bad "self worth" because her teeth are crooked. I do realize this person may have mental issues, so what do you expect? A person with mental issues to have the same outlook as someone who doesn't? Everyone assumes, it is the HUMAN condition, simply due to the fact that we don't KNOW EVERYTHING... Even I do it, I probably assumed several thing's right up out of my brain in this very post, so claiming you are not assumptive makes me think you're not actually ... Human.
Just childish, which is strange for someone that's an RN, would expect a slightly more adult outlook.
PFfft...
The good ol' days when thing's was more pure & wholesome. Right?
hmmmm. a bit better.
Really? How amusing. My dad used to say polished shoes made all the difference. He never mentioned teeth. I feel I’ve missed out. Maybe your folks never mentioned clean shoes.
Saying that, my teeth are perfectly straight although naturally "European" off-white.
Where do you stand on ironing underwear? I'd be up for spending some energy on such a futile question...
@ Mary Ann
Quote: "Why didn't this woman get adequate dental care and braces to straighten her teeth."...."having beautiful straight teeth was a very important indicator of self worth and self care"
I hope I'm not going down Jeremy road here and personalizing my reply to you, but your statements mark a new low in missing the point of a doc and then making shallow comments about it.
"Having sex with 251 men in 10 hours is no different than having sex with 1 guy in 10 hours." LOL Hey I agree with her. It's just a penis going in and out of her vagina no matter whether is the same penis or 251 different ones. Think of dildo.
people suffering from inner pain will go to lengths to kill that pain off by any measures necessary....to judge her for her actions is inappropiate as i do not share her biography & i hope others feel like wise.one thing she doesn't realize is that self infliction grows out of control when mothers are involved
& she see's that pain her mother has to endure which will be heartbreaking on both ends;that's the time when everybody wishes for a time machine.
Major butterface.
Not really my thing but I'd heard of her and was curious. Looked to me as if she was trying hard to believe she had done something wonderful, struck a blow for female sexuality or something. Perhaps I'm not feminist enough to get her point, maybe I just misunderstood, she just looked used and the harder she tried to live up to it the more unconvincing she became. Well, I should have known better than to attempt to watch, I was hoping she would show the porn industry for what it is, fake, hollow and unsatisfying, that she would stamp all over it and walk away. Turns out they did exactly that to her.
"Annabel saw this feat as an empowering act, a step forward in her self-styled feminist movement."
Definitely a brainwashed scum who cant make the difference between feminism and marxist feminism. So lying with the pigs is empowering? great, whats next?
Feminazi much? Take your sexual rhetoric elsewhere, it's her opinion, she owns it, not you.
So we're pigs huh?
That's the problem with feminazi's they claim they aren't, but then say stuff like this.
Why is she scum?
Because she does what many women naturally do but happens to be more efficient at it than you?
And I know you're response will be "I said marxist that's different gar gar gar gar rabble rabble" w/e, GTFO and change your attitude while you're at it.
Also, many psychologists have decided that PORNOGRAPHY has played more of a role in women's rights than any other single thing in human history.
So what's your point again angry person?
If anything this film just proves you must be a certain type of human to do this work, it say's nothing about feminism or women's rights, I know women that aren't porno stars that "degrade" themselves in this same way in normal life and NEVER get any credit or make money off of it, as a side note, they don't feel degraded, they do it because they like it, and they do it over and over again. Which is probably why this woman does it.
@Jeremy, you seem to have a 'feminazi' fetish. I keep getting this mental image of a woman in S&M gear cracking her whip at you...
Did you read what they posted?
I think what I say is absolutely pertinent.
(your analysis of my Fiance couldn't be further from the truth, and only further reinforces my statement that you indeed are a sexist and judgmental feminist, she actually watches a lot of these doc's alongside me and reads the comments as well, I usually ask her in advance if I'm being out of line with my comments because I like to have more than just my input, easier to find holes in an argument, and she agrees with me right now fully, she also called you out for being a "feminazi" with zero respect for people before I did. I have to agree with her, this is now two times that you've utterly disrespected or shunned the male sex as some dirty and barbaric species and are now backing up someone that obviously has some serious control / hate issues against anything with a phallus.)
Why do you defend someone who finds themselves so superior that they can label people as scum and "pigs" if they do not agree with what they do, that's no different from a radical religious group.
Whatever... Like I've said many times before, it's only sexist when men do it.
(I never said I agree with what this woman does btw, or hardcore porn for that matter, but it's her choice and I don't see how people can scream "scum" at her and think it's O.K. to do, ya it may be your right, but you're not right. I could just as easily call you scum for purchasing products made by slave laborer's in developing countries, and you know it's true, but I wouldn't do that because it would be naive to think anyone in the US could be capable of manufacturing their own automobile, medicine, beauty products, etc. Many of these products only make it into your hands because of practices MUCH MUCH more immoral than a woman's quest to find herself in senseless primal urges... In fact, I'd say her method makes a LOT more sense.)
Why did you assume my mental image had anything to do with your fiance?
My comment was directed at you, and only you, since 'feminazi' seems to be your favorite word.
(I did misread your comment, I now see the metaphor, but it still stinks of sexism, btw, here's how I know :)
I got fired from a major US corporation last month because I wrote a thank you card to some staff members that said "thank's guys!" because I was not there for the overnight crew and my usual crew consisted of 4 men, well turns out that a corporate team had been there that night and did the work and they were all women. I suddenly get called into corporate office, sat down, told I'm being let go because of some "inappropriate sexist" comment I had made, and to get my stuff and just leave.
Oh, and it turns out that the "ringleader" of this group of females was a "lesbian" that decided I was a hateful misogynist and assumed I had written the note to her on purpose. Why do I know this? Because her girlfriend made sure to come and find me the day I got fired and tell me this and then also spit on me.
I have contacted several lawyers, for the tiny fee of 25k I can hire a lawyer that "might" have a chance but he said the laws are so stacked against me that I'd be screwed and that "***** Corporation" will just drag it on so long I'll be forced to give up. "What about her girlfriend spitting on me?!" Lawyer - "Can you prove it, do you have the saliva still? Were there any cameras?" Me - "no...I did not think to keep the spit..." Lawyer - "Then we have nothing, however, if she said you had spit on her, you'd be in jail right now, no questions asked." America, loving it!
Really? This is my home now?
Like I said, it's imaginary because you're female.
If I had written "THank's scummy female pigs for the help" I could understand, but that's the kind of stuff women get to say EVERY DAY, and I get term'd for saying "Thank's Guys!"
That has no impact on how I feel about WOMEN, keep that clear please, but I'm sick of seeing women get away with saying the most vile and disgusting thing's because they're "women"
You're just a primate of the opposite sex, deal with it.
So you've had a bad experience and now every woman who dares to speak her mind is a feminazi.
I get it. But guess what? I really don't care.
You, Jeremy, come across as a jerk of the worst kind.
You've projected your bad experience onto people you've never met, will never meet, and whom you know nothing about beyond a few posts on a comment board.
You are guilty of the behavior you're condemning others for.
No, I'm not.
I asked you and others to stop doing what "some" women do.
How is that me doing what they do?
and I've called out just as many men that do this as women, I assume you're thinking that i'm on one side or the other, the reality is that I'm in the middle trying to get everyone else to stop fighting and join me.
Men and women are equal, and equally shitty, but whenever women comment it has to do with the "sexism" and the "feminism" side of it, which is just a cover for "I'm a sexist", men do it too, but at least we call it what it is these days.. Stereotyping.
To me it's no different than people that do this (to quote Jim Jeffries): "As a Christian I feel..." it's just a get out of jail free card, by saying "this is or isn't true feminism" you deflect the truth that you view it as a sexist issue into an argument of "old-school vs. new-school feminism" stereotype that discredits the real issues.
I also commented this: "That has no impact on how I feel about WOMEN, keep that clear please" by that I mean I realize not all women do this, nor do all men, and that it is a small minority and I do not judge ALL by this small group's decisions, however, when I hear the same type of SPEAK that I hear from these people with the gender inflating and deflating for the sake of your own emotional opinions it makes me sick, the people I'm against are the one's tossing tired sexist generalities around like they are still valid.
They aren't.
And I'm all for women's rights as long as they don't end up in the same position men used to be in, way up and above the law compared to the other sex, which is exactly how it is now, and any lawyer or student of law can tell you that. I understand the workplace is not equal still, and hopefully that all changes very soon, but it has to be EQUAL to both sexes. I REALIZE it has not been that way EVER, but times change, and repressing one sex as punishment for pains taken by the other sex just creates a cycle.
Another crazy fact for you - I'm the ONLY "male" in the group of friends I spend time with, because I don't play these games, and I stick up for girls as often as guy's when there's an argument and I go with the LOGICAL decision, not the sex based decision.
There used to be this very wonderful woman that would post on SeeUat Videos, she had brilliant dual sided arguments and often times silenced arguments with a single post, I wish she was around, but I specifically remember her saying she did not like the new influx of radical feminists hi-jacking her posts to suit their agenda.
This is why I fight tooth and nail to prevent SeeUat Videos from becoming another tumblr, or twitter, or FB, polluted and denigrated by ultra radical feminists that use it as a platform to spew their shi**y logic.
Have a nice day, and goodbye, I can't argue with someone that takes everything out of context and continually tries to paint me as hateful when in fact I am the 100% polar opposite and you would think i was absolutely normal if you met me in real life, I guarantee it.
"I'm in the middle trying to get everyone else to stop fighting and join me."
This is not how you appear to me.
Jeremy, you've tried to play the feminazi card on two docs now, both have been about women :)
Seems like you scared Jezza away? That guy was digging a hole so deep for himself he was about to hit the Motha Lode;-)
Or a load of Mothers, either way I didn't envy him :)
I can agree with some of what you've said, disagree with parts, but I gotta say, I very much doubt if I met a bloke that only had female friends they'd be what I'd call 'normal'. ;)
Jim Jefferies is probably not the best person to be quoting in a 'non sexist' argument. ;)
Another Jim Jefferies quote;
"I like men, men like me, we like each other. I hate women, women hate me, we hate each other."
And from the link following,
"..the fact that they (women) have very few rights in their culture...now it sounds good in theory but..."
youtube dot com/watch?v=Mn6eVIrmzq8
@Jeremy Hughes:
I find *your* talk of 'feminazi's' to be highly offensive. You seem to think that there is no need for feminism, and yet this article from the Irish Times, from 2005, says it much more eloquently than I ever could. You'll notice the author is male.
Here's a small exerpt, and I'll post the link to the article in a separate reply; it will need moderation, so check back for it.
Irish Times
Feminazi cartoon thinking
Fintan O'Toole
Tue, Aug 09, 05
"...[Rush Limbaugh's]...concept of Feminazis (a term equally offensive to women and to the victims of the Nazis) was somehow allowed to enter respectable political discussion.
"This matters because
"cartoon language helps to create cartoon thinking. (emphasis mine)
"What could have been dismissed five years ago as nothing but the ravings of extremists looking for notice now helps to shape public discussion, and therefore public perception, of a major issue - violence against women.
"The bringing into the mainstream of extremist language has blurred our common understanding of the issue. The issue is no longer the violence itself but the feminazis in the "highly lucrative violence-against-women industry".
"The thump of a head against the wall, the raped woman, the scarred children, the man who is ashamed to admit that his girlfriend beat him up, are replaced by Pow! Smack! Oooff! Kerrang! of Superman versus the Feminazis.
"In this world of caricatures, concern about violence against women is a denial of violence against men..."
There are some interesting statistics in the article. You might think about them.
I may be wrong....I may.
But the things i have read from you lately tells me that you were fired for a bit more than that....because although i see what you are trying to say sometimes... the way you express yourself comes accross as attacks on the posters, not just diplomatic conversation as you seem to describe your personality.
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I've gotten the exact same impression. I don't think I believe for one moment that a mere "Thanks, guys" was the real catalyst here.
At least we've gotten to the root of your very sudden and recent misogynist rants. Of course there are women that have a hatred towards men (do we have a word to describe them?). This has nothing to do with feminism. If everything that you describe is true, then you are the victim of those using the system to their own advantage. It's wrong...just as wrong as the injustices that women have endured only because they are women. Feminism is the vehicle that women have used to right the inequality of the past and the inequalities that many still endure in many parts of the world. Your encounter with the female counterpart of the misogynist is an unfortunate extreme that has nothing to do with equality or justice. Do not cringe every time you hear the word feminist. Equal rights for all is just as important to you as it is to all of us. Any feminist who advocates an anti men stance is no feminist. She is a hater... a female misogynist. One to be pitied and unfortunately, I'm starting to feel a little sorry for you as well.
My only experience with "Guest" are his, as you put it, "recent misogynistic rants." Therefore, like Pysmythe and you, I am also disinclined to give him the benefit of the doubt in the situation he described.
No company is going to fire an employee over a well-meaning, if ineptly-worded, thank-you note. At the very worst, they might be counseled about gender sensitivity--assuming it was the *first* such incident.
I'm guessing, based on 30 years management experience, that Jeremy was a bit more at fault than he wants to share.
If the SO of the woman he blames for his dismissal made the effort to be there and spit on him as he was leaving, there was much more than a thank-you note involved. That's what my sh!t-detector is telling me, anyway.
I found the part about the SO a little hard to believe, myself. To think that she would have been so angered by such an innocuous note that she sought him out seems more than a little extreme. Even if he was being sarcastic in that note, it hardly warrants that type of reaction. I'd say there is a little more to this story that he is willing to relate. I would also think that the reason the lawyer's fees were so high is because he had a very weak case and the chance of financial compensation from a lawsuit were not thought to be too promising.
Good one!
the pigs? who r the pigs? You seem a little unhinged.
and she wanted to prove what? how low she could go? Puhleeze....
About as depressing as it gets.
I guess this is as good a way as any to celebrate the popes resignation ;)
Right!...and now there is talk of having a Quebecois replace him.
Yikes...that would be a shame if Quebec was associated with the papal crap, imagine the hords of religious fanatics coming to visit Canada.
I'll only mildly and temporarily agree if she is a woman...at least that would be a change for once in hundreds of years.
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Really, Quebecois? I saw mention of an African candidate! It will be interesting to see.
I'm actually more curious about the age; I don't think gender will pose a stumbling block for any of their proposed replacements.
Someone from the Southern hemisphere this time (if they're smart), or a long-lost Italian, I'm betting.
Male or female, though, they'll have to be able to work that dress and vagina-hat, am I right?
And those ruby slippers...
Former Archbishop Marc Ouellet of Quebec is one of the most popular choices.
The 68-year-old is known for his cheerful and humble personality.
He currently oversees the selection of new bishops worldwide as "Perfect of the Congregation for Bishops."
Ouellet also president of the "Pontifical Commission for Latin America," which looks after and provides guidance to the Catholic Church in Latin America.
Here is the Quebecois....68 yrs old, he should be able to last too long.
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Is he *gulp* conservative?
(What am I saying, aren't they all ? lol)
But, yeah, maybe...
The Large-Mouth Bass, Chris Matthews, was talking on 'Hardball' tonight about some old Italian (conservative) bloke who's also apparently one of the frontrunners, and I'm thinking that's who they'll pick. For all those devout Italians, they'd be running overjoyed through the Roman streets like a flock of football hooligans.
I had never heard of this Quebec guy before...my catholic religion interest has always been to the lowest level. I was hoping this Benedict was going to be the last pope. I seem to remember reading that prediction somewhere...may be among the 2012 predictions.
An old Italian would be good as long as he stays in Italy.
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"I was hoping this Benedict was going to be the last pope."
Oh no! I never figured you as one of those people awaiting the rapture and the second coming. ;0)
Seriously, please, no Canuck pope. I don't think the Vatican even has a hockey team.
What? A Hoser for a pope?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoser
No, but maybe a hope for a poser, wait, is this about the movie up there or who has the hairier chest? Way off topic gents.
There is a tenuous link... God is mentioned in many porno's :)
Off topic? its a toss up, after all, some major porno in the bibles, and basically all religions.
But yes you are right in a way, off topic, we should all stick to sex and porno for this topic, even no uttering ...OH! GOD!...
Are we allowed to call the name of the bull (Nandi) that overheard Shiva and his lady making whoopee ? If it wasn't for him we wouldn't have the Karma Sutra ;)
lol, Good try, stick to the Chong topic. All the sex you need. Or is it?
I'm not that kind of girl Blue, I prefer quality over quantity ;)
Well, I don't know, if one doesn't work you could always try again. Hmm? or variety is the spice of life, Eh? you can't fool me girl, I know what women want, or You can always ask Chong. But leave the zucchinis alone, lol
And again and again and again.... Well, I could catch up on my reading I suppose. We women do like a good book ;)
Who says quality is guaranteed with one man only, how would one know?
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Karma Sutra? Lol, an interesting slip of the tongue, Dewy. :)
edit- Sex: You've got it coming to you!
Oops! Hope it's not the instant kind :)
I don't know...sex + instant karma might = a good thing!
Jeremy Kyle would need his own channel!
Well, not without someone's consent, it wouldn't, lol!
( Sneaky little Lennon reference. :)
More than sneaky, positively clandestine! I know more about brain surgery than I do about lennon :)
I've heard French Canadians being called frogs, frenchy, tabarnacos, binders but never Hosers. Oser (meaning dare) would be more descriptive as we are said to be sexually much more open than our counterpart.
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"Hoser" is a slang term for Canadians that was popularized by the characters "Bob & Doug MacKenzie" on SCTV in the late 70's early 80's.
I read that when i looked for the word. As i said a French Canadian has never been called as such.
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I think you meant he is the "Prefect" not "Perfect". And yes, you are correct. He is definitely one of the top choices in the running to replace the current resigning pope.
that part of my comment was a copy/paste.
This bit was mine:
Here is the Quebecois....68 yrs old, he should be able to last too long.
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Stephen Colbert did a great bit about the Canadian candidate. He is a Marc Cardinal Ouellet, a person from Quebec. I don't know how serious a candidate he actually is. I doubt the Cardinal would approve of Annabel's behaviour.
My personal guess is that the pope will be Cardinal Ouellet, quite possibly their "perfect" way to bring Catholic religion to the forefront in the Americas in a developed country and especially next door to the United States. An opportunity for them to create a revival of faith with millions of religious nuts not too far.
I bet if he is elected, he will be parading is pope mobile on American ground within a year...now that's only a prediction ...and i do hope i'm wrong!...this could give a step back to abortion rights, gay rights, all sex related rights.
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Bookies here have Ghanaian Cardinal Peter Turkson as favourite, supposedly liberal in that he says condoms are ok for couples in a faithful marriage where one partner has AIDS. I wonder if that means that they are not ok if both have aids, maybe he hasn't heard of super infection. Or maybe he has and doesn't care. They're all much of a muchness, or become so very quickly. They can't pick anyone too slack though, it would be like back-tracking on everything the old pope stood for. I just wish they'd stop yapping on about it on the news, they keep forgetting to mention Bendyd!ck was as wicked as they come.
Oh dear lord...I hope you're wrong, too...
If true, the church may want to upgrade the pope-mobile to US standards.
And I don't mean gas mileage!
They'd have to give it an acronym then, P W V maybe? Pope's Work Vehicle. Or some US marketing, call it the PoPOR, Pope's Pimped Out Ride.
I think most Canadians will have an indifferent attitude towards a Canadian Pope. "Wow. A Canadian Pope. Ain't that something. Who are the Leafs playing tonight, anyway?".
You got a few thousands catholic elders in the province of Quebec who would be quite excited, there are still a few nun convents, most small town has a catholique church...ya, Quebec until not so long ago was in the hands of religion, a big brake happened at one point and the majority of the younger population separated drastically from religion. Today the churches are packed with old people who most of the time celebrate a death over a wedding or a birth.
I am not sure how much the new adult emerging generation sees the impact of religion in their life.
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The man who might be pope from Quebec has caused lots of contraversy. His name is Marc Oullete, former Archbishop of Quebec City and prefect of the Congregation for Bishops (whatever that is).
He is 68, and is very old-school.
For example, he believes that it is murder if a rape victim has an abortion. He is also speaking out against divorce and gay marriage.
But that's what popes do, so he'd make a good one.
Now might be a good time for them all to retire and go home to their wives and kids ;)
sexually i don't think most runner up have been with women in order to have kids...but some may have been with a few kids.
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I read an amusing joke recently, went something like;
A priest dies and goes to heaven. He gets to read the original 'scriptures', and after awhile reading exclaims, "ohh nooo. The word was supposed to be celebrate"
I think the version I heard (I'm terrible with jokes) had the priest telling God why he should get into heaven, and when he mentioned being celibate his whole life, God asked him why he would do such a thing. He pointed to the good book and showed him and God said, "No, that's a misprint - it should say celebrate." D'oh!
I don't think there is anything in the bible about this except for Paul claiming it could be a good thing. Anyway, I just ruined another good joke - it's my way. Sorry! Don't post it, don't post it, don't...oh, too late.
11 th century the Pope decide that local priests until then were getting presents, then leaving their riches great and small to their wife's... yes wife's.... so.... no more wife... that's a fact... read an account of this period.. nothing to do with the new testament....
I was referring to the joke, but since you brought it up, look at Paul's first letter to the Corinthians, chapter 7.
I'm not a christian, just sayin'. I'm not saying you are wrong, either. Just clarifying my post.
I’m Not a Christian.... Either.... I love People Like My Landlord... My Brother Died.. He Said God Took Him... I said,,, Oh..... Will He Return Him ?...Every Roman Catholic.. that I explained why priests didn’t marry... and in the past did....... gave a Sheep.. remark... As Far As That Poor Sick..... Very Sick Woman... In This Case I hope God.. Takes Her...!
I have a cake pan in the shape of a big penis...made a nice banana bread tonight. As i said Froggies are sexually womancipated even while cooking. Talk about celebration!
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My friend made a cake in that form and threw a party to celebrate my man's vasectomy! He made the first "cut".
I brought one for a birthday party, the mother of the birthday girl (in her eighties) wanted the head with lots of whipped cream.
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