What The Ancients Did For Us: The Indians
India is one of the oldest and richest civilizations in the world. It is home to the world's first planned cities, where every house had its own bathroom and toilet five thousand years ago. The Ancient Indians have not only given us yoga, meditation and complementary medicines, but they have furthered our knowledge of science, maths - and invented Chaturanga, which became the game of chess.
According to Albert Einstein, they "taught us how to count", as they invented the numbers 1-9 and 'zero', without which there would be no computers or digital age. Unfairly we call this system of counting Arabic numbers - a misplaced credit.
Two thousand years ago the Indians pioneered plastic surgery, reconstructing the noses and ears on the faces of people who had been disfigured through punishment or warfare. They performed eye operations such as cataract removal and invented inoculation to protect their population from Smallpox, saving thousands of lives. (Excerpt from Open Learn)
India shyting brics since 1969 -and that was the last time they served chardonnay wine in Hotel california. I hope the songwriter was correct. welcome to sht holew india. sch a fcked up place..plenty of cows o the road anytime of the year you can get no milk only pollution.last thing i rememebr i was running to a loo had to piss my feeling and win the pissing contest
try to moderate crimes of leadrs u digita imptent
moderate the criminals in government yo digital ho's
India is a land of immoral politician, illegitimate citizens,liars. No use blaming British and writing a books about it by the likes Of MP sashi tharoor or other Hindu fanaics. Look at hs character first. Can you blame Britihs if Primeinster indira gandhi was actually a slt? sh was an immorla character. devadasi. prostitute in a temple.
what about MK stalin, his half brothers and sisters? What about Modi? who can we blame for sch immoral indians?
These fellows are fraud doing too many crimes. they have only copied western government system without understand it. there is CBI whici is politicla tool employing immoral cops who are then used to blackmail rivlas for money and covering crimes.
India can change once all these career politician, federal bankers, CBI ar all buried dead or alvie -which ever is easier. Modi is the most shameless gu ever to walk Delhi.
After reading most all the comments, only 2 have good principle or understanding or wisdom that a person should take note of:
Agree with @mac moy #3: The weasels who want to take advantage, jam peoples from 2 incompatible societal types together to weaken it, just as happening now in Europe and attempted in USA and Canada with Islamic and Western societies. The bankster elite (Rothschilds, Rockefeller, et al) desire to reshape the world to their liking, to their advantage, so get their Progressive-Socialist-Communist minions who are at the helm of nations, to allow in the barbarian Muslim Brotherhood and similar, to WEAKEN their countries. This weakening is required in order for the people to fall for their rotten plan of Socialist-Communist rule. First by aggregating into 3 or so world economic socialist-communist zones and eventually the one world enslavement (communist) govt where your whole life will be restricted to what they dictate. Will they succeed? Unknown. Possibly if all people can do is blame each other for what this so called elite group of manipulators is attempting; and succeeding so far to do.
Agree with @Annalene: "Get over yourself, every nation has it's demons and others to blame for their circumstances." Even the Brits were invaded by the Normans of the now French region. And so the invaded become the invaders. The Colonies now the USA terrorized by the Brits now terrorizing the Middle East. The arrogant Zionist Jewish leadership who call the non Jew: "goyim", is where Muhammad likely learned their similar "infidel". The Jews also terrorize the Middle East. In part one cannot blame some of what they do in response but they also do too many unprovoked wrong things as do the muslims. The Brits are likely doing something nefarious there as well. Russia is involved to some degree. Apparently the bankster elite is trying for WW3. China would not allow North Korea to have nuclear weapons if it didn't want them to be doing what they are doing, threatening its nearest Western countries.
Also there was a discussion of Pride and Ego. The puffery one feels at anything is ego, even a job well done. You should do a good job because it is the right thing to do, NOT because you get a good feeling. That is the evil that Do-gooders cause around the world. They consider themselves "helping" and "feel good" about it, when they are actually causing harm. Such as sending too much food to a poor country, wiping out the local farmers (which means most of their economy) and empower the Warlords who steal most of it and hold that power of life and death over all those in their area who must have that food to live. If you see fit to help someone, you should do it because they actually need it and it is the right thing to do, not because you get a good feeling or feeling of satisfaction about it. Results matter. See to it the results are good. Sickos whose hidden ego needs to feel good and could care less about the results and claim, "see what good I did over there" and pat themselves on the back.
Every culture, religion, person, has its good points and bad. Some more than others. I can see some have fallen prey to the major media and govt school propaganda regarding "Christians". If they are doing evil they are NOT Christians. They are hiding behind it, just like mafia going to church to absolve their sins. What a joke. If you don't judge Christ by Christians then you may learn something from him. There are people who claim they are from any of the various religions who have done evil things. The reason the major media is against Christianity now, is the same as mentioned above. The bankster elite owned professors at universities and bankster owned major media must drive people away from religion, being Christianity in the USA, in order to weaken the nation, weaken the family, weaken the people, as in post WW1 / pre WW2 Germany, which Hitler was pissed about, those banksters being Rothschild Jews and minions. If Churchill wasn't either minion or a dumbass, he would have fought with Hitler, to defeat Stalin a far worse villain than Hitler who of course had issues. Churchill saw Hitler as an industrial export competitor who was eating his lunch and wanted him taken out. Very small evil mind. Yet like throughout history, the worst are revered. None of them should be revered. Not Churchill, not Stalin, not Roosevelt nor Eisenhower.
Today we have the minions of the bankster elite controlling the USA military and CIA and look what they have done and still do around the world. When the banksters own "defense" companies, as they do in the usa and israel, war is very profitable. AS Major General Smedley Butler stated (some meaning similar to) War is a racket. Until you take the profit out of war, we will have war. These banksters also own the oil companies. A large part of the very large oil consumption of the usa goes to the military to secure oil, to fight wars, to secure oil, ...
When will it end? If people truly cared about their children, they would educate themselves about such things and prevent it so their children won't have to suffer as the young soldiers do today.
Know thyself. Those who offend you may not be your enemy. Those who are nice to you may not be your friend. And most important, no govt is your friend, despite all the govt school indoctrination and limited info - agenda driven propaganda the news pounds into you continually. Politicians are like diapers and need changing with regularity for the same reason.
We can thank those who came before us and taught us things. If they are prideful, we can realize that eventually these things would be discovered anyway. Often people from different part of the country or world come up with the same invention at nearly the same time or within 5 years. However, one must be very careful about what they are learning. Is it truly worthwhile and beneficial? Much of what is taught in schools these days other than math, is not. Is the technology leading to the weasels of the world being able to monitor everything you write, say, and do, worth the risk of what they want to do with that, which is to enslave you?
Oh yes, it is to protect against terrorism! What a joke. The police in the usa kill far more than the terrorists do. And of course they are trained by govt. So who is the real terrorist, the real enemy?
I hope I survive after writing such things!
Thanks for making this great documentary. Until recently, the western civilizations have failed to recognize the contribution of ancient Harrapan culture and scientific innovations of India. Harrapans had sanitary system and metal work figured out 4500 years ago. We Indians are peace loving people and hence perished at the hands of military superior western invaders in last 1000 years. It is well said that the history is written by winners. Uncountable monuments and art work were destroyed to belittle the richness of Indian culture.
India was a systematic and organized civilization for thousands of years till the British came. The caste system was created to segregate community according to occupation and it worked where the whole country lived in harmony. It is known that India was so advanced and developed that not one single Indian was suffering. As some would know, each caste has its own specialty in occupation. It was created by the king from the advise of Munivars (Siddar), these are the wise advisers for the King. They are the ministers whom create and manage Education, Innovation and Medicine. The parliament was first created in India thousands of years ago which is used now in India.
It was known that India was so rich that Columbus was looking for it as the land of Gold. Subsequently, the British have go invade India in order to be rich and famous now. Not only rich, they invaded the innovations and educational system. There are 4 Sangams (Historical Literature) that was recorded of the whole history and secrets of ancient India. After the invasion of British, Sangam 1 and 2 is no more available. And now UK is the most richest and a hub for Education. Many of us did not realize that many ancient system and teachings are still being practiced in India as daily life e.g. Tumeric is a part of food ingredient which is a medicine.
Indians was using Cloves as a main ingredient thousands of years in Chicken Curry, which connects to recently spread Bird Flu and the medicine for this now discovered in USA are made of Cloves. Onion increases hair growth used in Indian dishes. Tomatoes are used too in Indian dishes which enhances healthy skin. Many more discoveries in many subjects are being used as a daily life routines in India. The British wanted to compress India and they complicated the whole system which is now a crashed just like a virus that crashes a computer. India will reign again as the intelligence are inthe genes. It evolutes to the new environment using the same power. I am happy as now the world is looking up to the creators of civilization. Its all about learning not compressing. Civilization rise and fall at its peak time. India and China had its days and fell. Now China has rose and will be followed by India. A simplest evidence, the longer the civilization, the more population the country will have.
Hey you Marcus ...what are you saying that British made indians civilized. Oh you have mentioned that they gave railways etc. etc.
But you didn't mentioned that they looted all the wealth from India and now today have kept the Kohinoor with them, what are you saying about that India would we like other African countries if British didn't invaded, for your well kind of information India's Economy before invasion was very excellent but British ruined everything.
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If ancient India was so advanced that they had nuclear weapons then why did they not know simple thing like writing?.
why did they not leave us a recording of themselves like a dvd?
why don't we find their imprints on nearby planets and the moon?.
why were they restricted to small cities instead of living all over earth?.
I guess its time to cut the BS and accept the history like a rational human.
Most of them have been destroyed by persian invasion and later by imperial England
Also by Mughal Empire...
With all due respect, there's very little evidence of the BRITISH empire destroying Hindu temples, the majority of temples were destroyed during the sislamification of India and had been crried out way before the British even started to expand within the sub-continent. In the few examples where temples had been attacked by the British, it was when those buildings were being used as bases against British rule, which makes the building no more or less as a target than any other building, and therefore not specifically targeted purely because it was a temple, as your comment would suggest. Try googling "destruction of hindu temples" and see how many links you get through before the British are even mentioned and to the 11 who "liked" this post, shame on you for not reseaching before agreeing with this. Use your brains.
maybe they dint destroyed our temples. but they destroyed all our texts that contained so many things about science and stuff, they destroyed nalanda university which was worlds largest university. so dont try to defend britishers ..
When did British destroy Nalanda and our texts ? You know many of our ancients achievements through the archaeological search done by British. We lost it because of many reasons, first off knowledge was restricted within the Brahmin community and so most of the population of the country was ignorant and hence when Moghuls invaded us and destroyed our universities, most of the records were lost. It's the Britishers who started the investigation, started to study Sanskrit started to dig deep and they discovered our ancient glory and made these things popular ! Britishers weren't that generous they did oppressed us but if they didn't come we probably would still be trapped in our caste system, sati dah, etc etc !
Yeah i agree Britishers did not destroyed Indian culture, infect they tries to preserve it and used it, he main harm was done by Mugals , they not only destroyed temples , they ablaze our universities like Taxila and Nalanda , we have one one the oldest universities with bulk of knowledge but those killer invaders burn our text kill our scholastic people, when americans were building hardward mugals here building taj mahal , what a rouge they were. Britishers not only saved our text but translated them , they are still doing more research on old Indian script and sanskrit.
We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made
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well Mr.Ram nivas....
you must be brilliant than Einstein or 1 hell of a Dumm A**
You seem like a rather odd person to be watching educational documentaries. Or were you looking for the war stuff? Keep looking.
They know how to write as the oldest book is Rig veda , they use brain for recalling each event in history because of strong brain so why need a dvd , hmm thats the fault of american , they did .0001 % of exploration ,duffer, Hindus temples found all over world , hmm u seem to be ignorant not a rationalist rationalist believes in facts which is ur avoiding here .u must be follower of cult of ignorance , a pseudo religious m*ron .
first thing i would like to say is not only india but entire world was advanced,every nation had advanced technologies.second no dvd's can live for 10000 years.and what do you mean by imprints,there is no life possible in nearby planets and moon.but anyway aliens may have visited earth(devas and asuras may be aliens).and vedas,gita were composed in that era.this is not the first time humans are living in this planet .as according to vedas,earth will be destroyed at the end of kali yuga and universe will be destroyed after one day of bhrahma.bhrahma would sleep for one day(day of bhrahma) and again create this universe.this theory is currently accepted by scientific world.
This documentary was done without consulting a true Indologist....seems quite kiddish. The bottomline is simple (and is what is missing from the BBC documentary) - ancient Indian scientists were saints. Spiritual intelligence is the ultimate intelligence.
Thank you Britain, at least you didn't harm Hinduism much. Even though in the beginning you tried but later realizing the greatness and importance of Hinduism you left Hinduism alone. You actually admired and learned a lot from Hinduism that helped you to rule much of the world along with the wealth that you looted from India. That is a secret. But the most important thing is you saved Hinduism from barbarian muslims. India can regain all the material wealth that it has lost due to the looting of the foreigners. Except The Syamanthaka or the kohinoor diamond. that is priceless. India will regain it's lost glory in the coming years.
Zeb Baba, Hindus didn't destroy the Buddhist temples. Why should Indians had to do that. The Buddha himself was an Hindu. He was born in the Ikshvaku dynasty which Sri Rama and other great Indians were born. His teachings came from the core of Sanadhana Dharma. India became mostly Buddhist at some point in the past because Ashoka the Great. But Sri Adi Sankara Acharya. travelled throughout India held debates with Budhist monks, convinced them that vedic way of living is great. So almost all Buddhist became the followers of Sanadhana dharma again. It was the muslim invaders destroyed all the great Indian achievements, including the great universities of Thaxashila and Nalanda. India was far superior in culture, knowledges like science that includes all most all the modern science that we know today like maths, physics, chemistry, medicine,astronomy, metallurgy, warfare you name it. And spiritual, astrology, tantra, mantra and that goes on and on. So all of a sudden India fell behind. And under muslim rule India actually fell far far behind over the years as no research happened and the destruction of the the almost entire knowledge. Same happened when the westerners came. But luckily for India that put an end to the heinous islamic rule. Now it's time for India to grow again and to regain it's past glory.
Indonesia is an example where All the Buddhist culture has been destroyed by Muslims. Till 60s it was Budhhist country but the poverty turned them towards Islam but after that they become more poor.
on what basis have you come up with these numbers ? Aren't Americans breaking laws ?
Why do people from India get so excited about making a right turn on red in the US highway transportation system where its allowed? They want to simply run the light (common sense says stop / look and be cautious). If you try explain about the cross traffic having a green and the potential deadly accident your met with a blank stare. Or a phony "Yes, yes" and they keep on trying to kill someone or themselves? I wouldn't have asked, but I've just seen this so consistently.
you want to try driving in other country's,It is crazy in Paris Spain and Italy also.In India itself the traffic system has one rule keep to your side of the road everything else is a free for all,and the first rule can be ignored if you so please lol.
India existed when nothing existed....humanity and civilisation spread from here to all world...we were GREATEST..time changed and we lost all...but cycle of time is complete now..we will gain back our rightful place...and lead humanity.India had kings so great in past they could have won entire world in glimse...but hinduism is about peace,tolerance and very high thinking that westerner never understood...
few commented that india was imperial in SE asia..well guys better take history lesson...hindus never invaded anyone in history ...our knowledgfe spread everywhere through trade only and they learnt and follwed us...and for british rule that it gave something...its absurd...planned propaganda of west started from time of macaulay...they theft all our wealth and are still running on it..otherwise briatain was quite poor...entire europe is having fun from resourses they looted from india,africa and south americans.
Great alexander came winning everywhere but failed to defeat mere Porus who was very weak ruler of india...magadh was 100 time stronger than porus..had alexander moved ahead, he must have met doom better he ran away back...we discoverd mathematics,astrology,medicine science and wrote epic literature when europeans were cavemen and knew nothing else hunting....
Ok i respect idians and there long and glorious history,in part i am of somewhat a buddhist in belief, all the parts except god..I know india contributed to the worlds rich and wonderful rise in education of the planet but i have a problem with.
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humanity and civilisation spread from here to all world (WRONG)
Real answer = Humanity was show from early neanderthals who cared for the sick and old.
India had kings so great in past they could have won entire world in glimse...but hinduism is about peace,tolerance and very high thinking that westerner never understood..(wrong)
Indian rulers were known to pillage wealth from trade caravans and kill the merchants or traders along the silk road.They made a major mistake after stealing a second caravan from the Hun resulting in a bloody massacre of indian land and people for there nievity dishonest behavior and slightly childish shallow pompous false sense of power.
Indias educational system is based on a western style system the rich have private education and the poor get some if no education.
Child abuse maiming children so they can beg on the street,child prostitution and enslavement to religious orders etc etc.
I am not having a go just pointing out that you need to open your eyes from the opposing side before you comment on anything,this is wisdom i learnt in the western world but with your reasoning we have lower thought patterns and synapse response. This is absolute rubbish and drivel i am very happy you are proud of your race and culture but your ignorance is not tolerable in our low thinking western world.
Wtf
If i offend you with truth then you need to revise your own concepts of self,but i did not think that facts would hurt a wise and enlightened human no matter what creed race or colour.If you say you are a proud person that in itself is a flaw and nothing good has come from pride.I offer these words from a wise and enlightened westerner,and by the way my first love at school was an Indian girl who stuck a pencil into my arm i was 6,i certainly am not an Indian hater.I do not see creed race or colour i just see wonderment and cultures i spend many hours reading in amazement and wishing i could spend a life time in each one and all the eras.
Nothing good comes from EGO.. You're hoping the person preparing your next meal takes PRIDE in their creation. Pride/Ego 2 different things.
A person who cooks food takes care to make the meal nice,pride is what the individual takes from preparing the food thus being a selfish and egotistical emotion.
So ultimately we agree... it's really just confusion over Semantics. I use the word 'Pride ' to describe what you indicate as "takes care"..
The will to do good. the feeling of satisfaction over a job you gave your best to.
To over indulge in this feeling..to begin to manipulate situations for this feeling, the will to be self-centered or selfish is the Ego at work.
Among other things.
But hey, I'm no F'ing Buhddist as" Bjork" would say. Peace.
When Lord Krsna left the earth Kali YUga entered, a degraded era will continue for many many years, India can again become great if it regains its Spiritual power... not in trying to imitate the West in competitive industrialization [this is what's killing the West]. Long live Sanath Dharma [reality= eternity, bliss and knowledge] ] , Vedic Religion & Sastras !!!
yes indians only taught science maths medicine and martial arts(kalarippayattu) and another astonishing information indians have used nuclear weapons and even more advanced weapons a million years ago(nuclear strategy in ramayana)
Outside of scripture, what material proof is there of this? Humanity didn't even exist one million years ago, let alone the "Indians" (Hindus is a more accurate term for what you're saying).
Well how about 30000 years ago...
What material proof you have to say the Humanity did not exist a million years ago. Darwin's theory it self is contentious and half of scientific society is not in favor of it. By the way do you call putting humans as food to hungry lions and watch the pity of them (as if soccer) is CIVILIZATION.
Europeans never seen the rest of the Advanced Civilizations from their perspective. Instead they always looked from European perspective, made assumptions. To make them reality, they destroyed all the proofs. Best examples are Indian & Mayan Civilization.
what do you mean by material proof?do you want me to show you an airplane and nuclear weapon?according to my belief(and vedic theory) world ended in a nuclear warfare,and this causes decaying of objects.according to big bang theory universe expands and contracts,so how can you say humanity didn't exist before one million years.and moreover clearly understand the vedic point of view ,earth has been created and destroyed several times,after 4.32 million years ago,earth will be destroyed and be created again.(remember age of dinosaurs was 4 million years ago).now after one day of bhrahma(roughly 300 billion years) universe will be destroyed and recreated after another 300 billion years.now from this we can easily say that after 4.32 lakh years earth will be destroyed.
India..was also a colonist in Asia..they built Angkor Wat..many buildings in Thailand (which means mother land in TAmil)..much of the languages and literature in South East Asia ..heavily influenced by the Ancient Dravidians of India..
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A colonizer is when others' land is seized and occupied and the invader has more rights than the original inhabitants. There is no record of Bharati folks/kings mistreating SE Asians or treating them as inferior. Indian travelers? Yes, colonizers? No. ( AFAIK)
Dear Zen baba,
What exactly are you trying to say ?? That hindus/Indians destroyed buddhist structures, and not the invaders??You are a little unfair in saying that this is xenophobia.
King Harsha was follower of some Hindu gods, and mainly a Buddhist, and this is the golden period of Indian History.Ashoka,his motifs adorn the current indian symbols,be it political or military.
Have you been to Ajanta and ellora,countless other caves and viharas..?? or Jain sites of Shrawan begauda..or Mount Abu..>>?? i guess not. Nothing is destroyed. And there were stupas and caves or monasteries (viharas) for buddhist patronage not temples then.
and when you say there are no buddhist in India,its not due to force, it happened gradually from 700~to 1200 AD..it was for practical and reasons of day to day affairs. The monastic approach,pennance and enlightnment did not fit in the peoples want to work, earn a living,have a family or similar to that. Hinduism in these times had become practical, and straightforward.
and If you study the pattern of muslim conquest you will see the the gradual increase of force from the west , and decline of buddhism.( this is my theory that to uphold their respective empires, a faith was required that could bind. the people.their way of life/culture and their patriotic passion together.and since buddhism/their followers in those times was very peace loving/non violent) [ a parallel can be drawn
see the pattern of destruction of the somnath temple ,and you will noticce how the raiders grew in strength.
People have come to india from around India and far for a long time,be it conquest or migration and its the Indian way of life to accomodate everyone,because once they come they become part of India and its legacy.Kambhojas,huns the Scythians,greeks etc etc
But never before the muslim conquest or english for that matter the indian subcontinent had to live with the religion/way of life originatining very far from the subcontinent and totally different to what existed here at those times.
SO YOUR POINT OF TRYING TO GET A COMPARABLE IN DECLINE OF BUDDHISM with 'unrealistic' xenophobia is totally unjustified.
To stress my total neutral assessment of the whole scenario, I unedrstand History is cruel and unforgiving.To know it and accept it is the only way forward.Maybe you disagree with many things I say, but to conclude I will say....
That the beauty of our country in accomodating many many foreign people, like I mentioned above ,also muslims,parsis, even pportuguese,english or the french. who came for trade conquest or whatever and Making all of them belong to the land not foreigners anymore is ODE to India..
To each his own is our underlying way of thinking.
advaita,dwaita,artha,nirvana,ekomkar,pak..
There are temples mosques stupas,jain temples,churches,(few synagogues),gurudwaras, fire temple,there are gujratis,punjabis,bengolis,nagas,tamils..oh ....
how can we be anything but impressed with this holy union or belief,philosophy expression and life.
I glad to be born in India, if I get a next life, I dont mind being born as hindu muslim ,a tree or even a moth..hope its in India.
Cheers
K
For all those that think britishers helped india with railways postage and new technology look here ----> CHINA , britishers were never here, do they lack the new technologies ?!?!??!
Britishers helped with nothing, they looted india.
extremely true they are now very advanced and stand next to america, they only communism but india follows democracy but what is the use, we have to really work hard to bring the past glory of india
Yes they were, Hong Kong amonst other regions, which Britain turned into the Wealthiest place on the planet. For almost a century HK was the richest place on earth qith NO resources, while China next door with masses of resources was in pennery.
Lets look at places the British went, China, India, Canada, US, NZ, AUS, Falklands, Bermuda, Egypt, South Africa, and more, whats common? They are the wealthiest, healthiest parts on earth. And as to the US which became independant earlier, what major difference? A shambles of a healthcare system, and a Union that monitors peoples phone calls, -soon internet?!- and monetry transactions.
HK's monetary rise was do to their ideally placed location for trade --which is exactly why the British forced its ceding to themselves. This is also true of Singapore, which, before the British, was also a major port of trade.
If you want to talk about where the British went, you'd also be wise to add countries like: Sudan, Swaziland, Zimbabwe, Sierra Lionne, Cameron, Nigeria, Algeria, Iraq, etc. You can't just cherry-pick the one's that did well.
Not to mention, the places that are doing "well" (Canada, Australia, NZ, USA) experienced major cataclysmic genocides of aboriginal people. Magic! An entire continent or two can be opened up and the wealth shared more broadly among colonizers! Hideous.
Excellent... unfortunately the Westerners still don't open their eyes and dreaming their Grandfathers civilized the world!! Yes they civilized the world the European way, killing the most advanced civilizations.
Also, you need not look further than Ireland to see what the British Empire's true effects were: they stripped the population of control, took their food, and let them starve in startling numbers when they made more than adequate levels to feed themselves. The population of Ireland has still to return to pre-potato-famine levels.
One more addition.. .which was used throughout documentary but not mentioned... its soothing music which acts directly on soul. Because music is not materialistic, its comparison and appreciation by all is almost impossible.
The most important things Indians did for us is that even though they were ruled by muslims for over 700yrs they faced atrocities and paid a tax known as Jizya,only hindus were required to pay for it.but they somehow retained their culture and religion otherwise jus imagine we would have 120crs + extra muslims in this world.
The entire Iran became muslim in just 14yrs and egypt in just 3yrs and other host of countries that embraced islam but somehow Indians resisted it
Indian paid for these for there varnasarama dharma. On this they lost everything expect religion. Because india living religion(hindu) of love . one more thing india learned little from 1000 year roles of foreigner.
Its unfortunate how people demonize British Rule on India. At least they had left few positive legacies , they were able to wipe out the Barbaric Islam rule. It is nomadic Muslims from Middle East that plundered India,butchered the natives, forcibly converted Hindus to Muslims. I can name a lot of mosques,Dargas and other monuments which were once Hindu temples.
So,its not Britishers that one has to demonize but its the nomadic, barbarious,evil Muslims from harsh Arabian Deserts that raped India.
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I suppose letting thousends starve to death while the British took all the rice and grane was good for India? When the British stopped slaving in Africa they went straight to India for slaves. You have a lot of people of Indian decent in the west indies, decendents of slave brought there by the British (that was great for Indians) Ghandhi stood up to the British Empire because he had nothing better to do. Right
gandhi was the only person in the world who fought for another country.
At that time, especially after a Victorian education, he did not know what the British were actually doing: looting, enslaving and degrading India. His greatness lies not in being born perfect but in learning where his knowledge/beliefs were wrong, recognizing the lies UK fed him about their rule and black people and emerging compassionate
Partly True.
Before the Europeans arrived in India. India was much more literate and wealthier than the Europeans...
The divide was huge..ie the Indians' knowledge of maths, science was far superior than the invaders'..Even Pythagoras learnt his Maths in India.. the oldest two universities in the world were in ancient India..
Francois Voltaire (1694) Oppenheimer,Albert Einstein,Roger Pol Droit. and many many others have paid homage to Indias contribution to European knowledge in the ancient world....
Sad,Indians dont know this...
The drainage systems that were used in ancient India was used in Europe ,two thousand years later....
Other races..dont put themselves down like the Indians do..Such a mystery..Feng shui, martial arts..came from India..
The western number system known as Arab Numerals inc zero and infinity..sine cosine..pie..are all from India..but already claimed by others because Indians are busy fighting each other...
background music is in nepali
Such a nice documentary.
I just can't help myself from saying "Hate is the evil of everything". No one can deny the fact that British occupied India because of their technology. It was sad that India didn't advance well in that direction.
After visited/lived in many countries, I believe that the true freedom still exists and reasonably enjoyed only in India. Good that no one marked me in number and tracking the number here. I don't think anyone ask my passport anytime soon in streets.
Hey @ Marcus, I gather u are a low on self-esteem frustrated Brit(probably English)! No, India would have been a developed country. India was the richest country in the world before the British invaded India! And what did u leave? One of the poorest countries in the world! U created that infrastructure only to keep ur own colony running smoothly, not for the benefit of Indians! India would have traded with European powers other than British and gradually moved to Western ideals just like what the Japanese empire did! That administrative system u are talking about is the only thing holding back India today! Infact everything which u left is still haunting us today like a pain in the ass- like Pakistan!
One request to know more about india please dont read foreign authors book. Please read Swami Vivekannada lecture Kolambu to almora . You can know more about india not only in religion.
Get over yourself, every nation has it's demons and others to blame for
their circumstances. Look at Japan they were almost wiped out I have
NEVER heard them blaming others ! Get off your a**es and do something
about it ! A place to start: Don't rape little girls and hang them from
trees, traffic OMG try creating or "invent" something to get structure
back, and last but not least, STOP breeding like rabbits! Even an
animal knows when circumstance are not favorable to propagate!
Yes over pop is India's problem, truly the only internal problem. UK exported its poor, its criminals and its unwanted to countries where they killed the locals, thrived and created/imposed their own culture.
Japan agreed not to blame the west, gave their bio warfare experts to the US, and avoided war crime trials for some. Most of its young have not been taught much about Hiroshima.... as part of the peace agreement.
Absolutely amazing . It seems he just touched the surface. Just a taste of what India gave us. I will have to look for more .
ps. I'm becoming addicted to this web site . When I go to bed I check my email and watch truly amazing doc's.
Terry
@Marcus
I would like to pint out that your views are false, even without the British occupation, India could still have developed through open trade with Portuguese and Dutch. Open competition could have helped a lot. India only got occupied because it had so much that the British planned for 150 years before completely enslaving India.
Coming to the case of Africa, it was not until recently that natural resources were discovered. Africa was occupied in the late 19th and early 20th century. India was already a rich nation by the time of occupation, which makes a lot of difference. The only reason to occupy Africa then was to provide safe ports for trade routes between rich India, Latin America and Europe.
u forgot the kamasutra, the art of making love,
Dennis, To answer your question what would India be like today if not for the British....The answer is simple....The poorest and most ravaged country in the world...Thanks to the British, we came under one flag, one link language through the length and breath of the country not 256 languages and 600 little kingdoms fighting one another. The British gifted India with the railways, The post and telegraph A democratic way of like a good legal and administrative system. The Indian has to thank God for the British if not we would have been like many of the African countries.
If most of the African countries were allowed to develop alone outside of the effects of colonialism and the "apartheid"/racist caste systems create whilst Europeans invaded these countries... these countries general populations would be a lot more prosperous today. To add to that , because of the white supremacy attitudes and black inferiority propaganda spread to this day... in addition to exclusionary global trade policies against African countries , African countries and many other developing countries fates are intertwined with European interests and disinterests. You can say they were" primitive" but they are richest in resources & assets and could have chosen to participate in modern advances on their own.
Steel was first invented in Tanzania
Please get the history straight. Yes the British gave us all you said, but they also left the country poor by looting it for their own good and also separating it. And yes there would have been many states as you say if it were not for Sardar Patel, who forced the kings to give in...Something that was done a 1000 years ago by Chanakya (and no Sardar Patel was no Chanakya).
Britain united it in the first place. Before the British you would have gone by your Kingdom not Country of India, and the partition was due to the inadequacy of religions to live together without someone telling them not to fight.
Britain united India with two other countries to weaken it. They did the same in Iraq and Nigeria, where disparate ethnic and religious groups were pushed together so as to weaken the people's independence there when they "let" them have it after the major upheavals of the mid-20th century. This allowed the UK to continue exploiting their ex-colonies vis-a-vis their strong (and exploitative colonial) ties with these countries. This effect continues today.
what crap. "partition was due to inadequacy of religions to live together without telling them not to fight " Did it succeed? look at India and Pakistan now. How about all the 700 years before arrival of British in India ... how many religions did India have? did they fight? yes. So what difference did it make. British just put on more salt of the wound. British could not control Hitler and his hatred of one religion, how can control or even have say without any experience in religious conflicts in India. History books in UK might have been written for sake of Nationalistic movement and self pride, does it mean that its true?
India was united during the times of King Ashoka, and some of the Mughal kings. British achieved it too and also like kings before divided it again. This time into India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar...
And At least India goes with name called India now. Where as UK is still a Kingdom. If it was not for British, India would have been called as Hindustan. No difference.
What British gave to India is English Language. I think it is grateful for that.
Fist of all, Hitler came to power thanks to the British aristocracy & US industrials who were far more preoccupied by the rise of Stalin's communist Russia (dangerous to their capitalistic appetite); Secondly, Hitler's ideology was ethic/race hatred, not religion.
United under Ashoka and the Mughal empire? Pretty sure the Islamic Mughal "oppression" was used by Hindutva political parties like the BJP as a way of mobilising the Hindus in the fight for an ethnically pure and homogenous Hindustan. India was not "united" by the Asoka, it was just controlled.
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About ONE % speaks it well and acts as if it is the elite.
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There was a land called Bharat long before, mentioned historically and repeatedly. UK created Partition and the US wanted Kashmir as payment for helping the Allies.
thank you marcus for ENLIGHTENING us!
waiting for you all come back and give something again.
by the what fees you all charge -a CIVILISATION?
True, the British have given us the Railways, abolished Sati and numerous other horrible practices(including the various measures they took to TRY and reform the Caste System). And, if you see the wider view, then they've given to us the English Language and Cricket(Just had to mention it here ^_^). But what's the cost of all that? All of the above would have happened eventually, anyway... along with the rest of the world, due to Globalization. They plundered the wealth of the country, destroyed the wildlife(almost made Tigers extinct due to hunting...:O), looted it immeasurably(Tsk..tsk...The Kohinoor Diamond would be a perfect and a cliche example, wouldn't it?), left millions of people impoverished(The Great Famine that happened during the 1800's) and finally when they realized that there was nothing more left to squander or loot, they packed their bags, waved a 'Ciao' and sailed away merrily to their tiny island in Western Europe. Oh, and not before partitioning the country into India and Pakistan(which might have been a good thing on their part...).
"The Indian has to thank God for the British if not we would have been like many of the African countries." >___ Our Beloved Wikipedia!
Aren't the above historical facts a little too conflicting with your 'theory'? =_=
"The poorest and most ravaged country in the world..."
The British did leave India in such a position. The Goverment had to clean up the mess that they had created. India did progress a long way from then, don't you think? (:
P.S-> Also, I DO NOT bear any resentment towards the British. Apparently, their Spanish and Portuguese counterparts were worse colonizers...more ruthless towards the natives.( Though I'm not sure about these facts at all).
And, I don't believe that you're an Indian. Because no matter how much we(Indians) denigrate India, we still defend our country against others. Atleast I know I do.(True story..heehee! xD)
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" - Abraham Lincoln.
A piece of Advice-->I'd do that if I were you. (:
Oh, and about the video...it is quite informative actually. India does have a long history of Science and Mathematics...which reminds me...I have my 12th Math Final Exam in a couple of days! Aishhh! T_T'
Better get studying!
Their railways were meant for themselves and to move troops and goods to ports. Sati was NOT common. Read Dowry Murders by Dr Oldenburg. There were no dowry deaths before colonization.
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One link language? English is spoken by very very few and they can speak mainly to each other. English speakers rarely know any Indian language or history well and are usually strangers to India's problems.
`Your comment reads like one educated by the British as to what natives should be taught. It is not based on reality.
Do read Churchill's Secret War or research Life expectancy during the Raj for starters.
Most Indian kings were managing their kingdoms well as described by most travelers and they supported culture. India was considered wealthy....
Europe too was busy infighting....
It is not "case" system. It is supposed to be "caste" but that word is also another poor vocabulary match to the varna system. The varna system in its basis is a very good and essential system. It has enabled the Indian society to survive beyond the savage rules of the Mughals and the British. However for the past 2000 years especially, the system has been misused by so-called 'higher' varna people by way of ill treating the others. This fact needs to be corrected. That is what is needed now and not abolition of the varna system.
a lot of bad things about the indian culture would still exist e.g the case system(obviously it still exists but it is not as bad as before). all in all if you are in a higher case india would be very pleasant
HI THE CASTE SYSTEM WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, ONLY THING NOBODY BELONGED TO A PARTICULAR CASTE BY BIRTH BUT ONLY BY KARMA-WHEN A CHILD WAS BORN THE MOM WOULD SHOW THE FATHER THE FATHER THE GURU ( CALLED PARAMHAMS-NOT THE FALSE ONES YOU FIND TODAY) AND THE GURU WOULD GUIDE THE CHILD TO GOD-THATS THE GURUKUL SYSTEM - HENCE THE GURU WOULD AFTER SOME PERIOD DETERMINE THE BRAHAMINS ( THE LEARNED ), KHSATRIYAS (KINGS OR KNIGHTS), VAISHYAS( BUSINESS CLASS ), SUDRAS( WORKING OR COMMON CLASS) BUT LATER ON THE BRAHAMINS AND KHASTRIYAS CLEAVERLY CONVERTED IT INTO BY BIRTH-HENCE DUE TO THEIR ATROCITIES CAME BUDDHISM,JAINISIM,CHRISTINATIY, ISLAM AND OTHER RELIGIONS-
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On reflection of the resent programe What The Ancients Did For Us: Indians. What do you think India would be like today if the British haddent invaded.
loved this documentary and the many many in this amazing site.....thank you so much sir
Hey man, thank you so much! very inspiring!
This was an enlightening documentary. I don't want to give too much away, but I will say that I have much respect for our ancestors. I always mistakenly thought the Arabics created the concept of zero; 'never knew that the Indians created the water clock, either.
'Such a beautiful, resourceful culture that I believe others took for granted. It's amazing to conceive that, though their brilliance was enough for them (simply to sustain their way of life), it wasn't enough to quell the greed of other imperialist cultures.
Thanks again for sharing this.
Before I write anything else, I just want to say a big "THANK YOU!" to Vlatko for providing these enriching documentaries. You are truly awesome; I think I speak for all of us who have been lucky enough to find this site when I say your generosity is much appreciated.
Anyway, I love this documentary (so far), but found something pretty funny. Around 6 minutes into it, the older British gentleman tells "a sad story" about the girl who was "never able to marry" (even though she willed it). And yet, he is not wearing a wedding ring and I assume he is not married, either. HA.
Anyway, thanks again. I'll comment once I'm finished picking through the trivial tidbits I notice. ;)
more good knowledge kept out of the "civilized world" by christianity
Hey, I would like another serving of that please.
Absolutely fascinating! I had no idea India was the real starting place for so much. I love this documentary site, the more I learn, the more I want to know. Wish I had this enthusiasm at school, 59 now and I love learning! Many thanks for this wonderful site.
simple documentary but good
it seems as if the host is doing one of those educative emission for Kid ...with practical example ...
but still that was a good Doc ..
Thanks Vlatko ,you really please the documentary Fans ...
P.s. the Nose surgery was kinda of gross....but did that really work ...hmm~?
"What India did for us": would be better put as: "What our brave explorers took home from India".
This video is very good in its spirit and presentation of sciences in ancient india. The name of the early expert in ayurveda is 'sushruta' and not 'suruta'
Dear sir,
Thanks a lot for the documentary. Its inspiring.
Regards
Kiran
Hi Vlatko. I really admire what you have done. You deserve appreciation more than many. Thanks for your hard work.
Thanks a lot. Appreciate that.
Wow... This is amazing. Being an indian, after seeing this documentary, i realise i know nothing about India. Thanks. I am all charged up after seeing it.
This is an excellent video describing the feats of ancient India. Not boasting because I'm an Indian, but because they truly are remarkable for their millennia. I must admit I feel proud to be an Indian.
I just wanted to say thanks Vlatko. I found your website with its documentary contribution to the internet the other day. Superb. A really positive contribution :) Caroline