Such Hawks Such Hounds
Such Hawks Such Hounds explores the music and musicians of the American hard rock underground circa 1970-2007, focusing on the psychedelic and '70s proto-metal-derived styles that have in recent years formed a rich body of unclassifiable sounds.
This is a great documentary film by John Srebalus about heavy music of USA. Music , interviews, live and some of the heavy metal, stoner, doom and drone legends from 1970 till now. More than one hour of great music, historic point of views, attitude and great people.
Such Hawks, Such Hounds is a testament to the vitality of rock music. Relying only marginally on nostalgia, it says that at any point in history, the music being made is as worthy of attention as that of times past. It’s an introduction to an under-heralded sub-genre and a realization of its cinematic possibilities.
one of the best music documentaries ever.
If you're a diehard fan of this kind d of music, hard/stoner/ doom/ metal/BlackSabbathripoff/rock, you'll get to see some cool interviews with some key figures, particularly Matt Pike and Wino, but if you're not a fan this thing is a huge turnoff, a meandering failure trying to trace the history of the heavy riff.
"House, Trance and Techno" are "Symphonies"?!!? Anything you can compose in real-time while tripping on ecstasy is NOT a Symphony!
An extremely ignorant comment by someone who has not a clue about electronic music production, obviously.
First of all, chap, any professional producer of electronic music writes while being perfectly sober; in fact, it is unlikely that anything decent could be written while the author is intoxicated (with live instruments it's easier in this regard, by the way, since their usage is more "manual", and it subsequently requires somewhat less mental control). Any serious producer knows that writing and getting high are two entirely separate domains.
Second of all, you CANNOT, in actuality, compose it very as-a-matter-of-factly and easily, the way you make it sound. Proper electronic music production is a lot more challenging and requires a lot more time and effort than learning how to play guitar, for example (not because it is better, but because it is more complex and demands vast knowledge of sound synthesis and sound engineering). Once again, any professional will second that.
The above point was made in relation to your "real-time" comment (whatever it means anyway: after all, any writing takes place in real-time... one way or the other, doesn't it). If you want a crappy track, be my guest. However, if you want a high quality track...
And lastly, my good friend, you don't trip on ecstasy since it is not a hallucinogen. You get smashed, you get off your face, you peak, etc. But you certainly don't hallucinate. Not unless you are candy-flipping.
I don't think you should be judging the makers of trance/techno/house until you yourself tried your luck at producing something within these genres (just to have a taste of the challenge). Having said that, it is not an attack on you - merely an attack on your partial ignorance. Peace.
Im gonna butt in on this argument :). I produce rock music and have done for years. I gave electro a shot for a giggle and found it pretty easy.... just saying
bahaha ya right, electronic music is easy to make i have friends who have learned to do it in an afternoon and make techno as good as anything ive heard professionally done... even IF pro techno took more time and effort to learn then real instruments the music itself is still much worse.. if that is best they can do after hours of work it just goes to show there is even less talent then i thought in that genre.. that is the most positive thing i can say about techno.. I even called those beeps and whoosh noises etc music
To be honest mate, if your mental plane is as narrow as that comment suggested I can't even be bothered to make the comment I was just going to make.
Lol, tell that to Richard D. James. If you have never been exposed to in depth, complicated, cognitive and beautiful electronic music, and only have heard what they play on mainstream tv and radio, you have no frame of reference. Your comment indicates that. Please keep the spew in the trash where it belongs
From a semantic point of view though, the word "symphony" should not be used to describe a piece of music which does not follow some variation of symphonic form and doesn't involve an orchestra. A symphony is a finite thing with a real definition, and to compose one properly takes years of musical training, practice, knowledge, and god-given talent. The musical skill required for this are every bit as in depth as the technological skills required of producers and engineers, and probably more. There are a lot more people in the world capable of running mixers than can write a legitimate symphony. A symphony could never be improvised under any circumstance- that would be like a scientist publishing random thoughts as tested theories. House, Trance, Techno, etc. are legitimate genres of their own and judged according to their own standards, but let's not confuse these genres with the symphony- they simply are not.
Mario Lalli, "there are things that you can do with a clean reverb tone that are so evil and dark that it makes Black Sabbath sound like Peggy Lee." But in the next sequence its Mario Lalli jamming to a rif that's so weak that it would have been rejected by Sabbath instantly. I've seen Fatso Johnson too many times to count out here in the desert...and they don't deserve to lick Tony Iomi & Geezer Butlers boots....or maybe that's exactly what they deserve to be doing. LAME!!!
hell yeah man, you posted it, thanks, I was beginning to think you wasn't gonna :D
Pretty good except they successfully sidestepped RUSH.. back in 1975 they had "Anthem" and "Bytor and the Snowdog" then '76 "Bastille Day" and "The Necromancer" -Heavy stoner rock for sure.. Then of course "2112" and 1977's "Cygnus.. X1" There were many more after this like Freewill , Tom Sawyer, Killer Instinct, and stuff...but I can see how the Keyboards might have been a turning point for the band as far as relating to the type of music featured in this Doc.. At least ~Yes~ got a little love.
what Rush have to do with this??
Then it was sex, drugs and rock and roll. Today it's aids, crack and techno.
What the hell went wrong?
No. Today it's sex, ecstasy and house music, mix in with a little rape.
rock and roll is associated with heroin which people get infected with aids and hiv
"mix in with a little rape". That made me laugh :)
You have a good point, but still I'd rather live with 70s rock any day over what being played on the radio today! Music had more meaning, emotion and feeling and a longer shelf life and it wasn't auto tuned just to sell another record to a kid. Not saying all of todays music is like that, but the mainstream majority is without a doubt.
2 cents
I agree with music had more meaning back in the days and i do agree most of the mainstream music is auto-tune but then again, we are going into the technological age. House, Trance and Techno is the symphony of today and auto tuned pop, rock and senseless rap like soulja boy's crank dat is the new era.... who knows... he's probably doing a good thing to get america off their feet and start exercising (they do need it with the obesity crisis and i am Canadian) ahaha
Canadians are fat bastards too
ha thats funny **** , even the biggest canadians are small to and average american , over half the american population is over weight
"I think people are just hungry for melody. They want to hear something they can remember and think about. My emphasis is on melody." Wino on the SToner MoVeMent
I felt this one at 1:15 mins will take you to that next Dimension :)...Appreciate this Vlatko you on point today for the music feens Lol.....Peace
Fantastic! Thanks so much for this... really a gem to watch