Dog-Fighting Undercover
I was approached by the BBC 18 months ago with the idea of trying to infiltrate a dog-fighting ring in the UK. My views on animal welfare have always been strong and the thought of people fighting dogs makes me sick to the stomach. I wanted to expose these people. This was an investigation that needed doing.
But where would I begin? The people involved in this barbaric so-called sport are so close knit that a stranger on the scene arouses instant suspicion. And as for the scene - where was the scene? Where do these people meet? Where do they fight the dogs? How do you recognise a dog-fighter?
I knew very little about dog-fighting and my knowledge of the dog they used - the pit bull terrier - was limited. My priority was to research the pit bull terrier and drill myself on the dog's characteristics. I tested myself over and over again until every detail was etched on my brain. It had to be.
An anonymous source had given me information about one of the largest dog-fighting gangs in the UK - The Farmers' Boys. They're based in a small town in County Armagh, Northern Ireland called Tandragee and have been dog-fighting for years. The Farmers' Boys seemed to thrive during The Troubles - obviously the police had to concentrate on other things. (Excerpt from news.bbc.co.uk)
yes kill the fn dogs and let the retarded humans continue life.
these pitbulls are missing balance, obedience, boundaries and limitations which ALL digs need in order to live happily with humans. its the lack of this on humans part that create these attacks. Stop blaming the animals and start killing these fn idiots who treat dogs like crap. I have met many pitbulls who have a balanced life and are aware of the boundaries they are required to follow.
My next dog will be a pit bull, and it will go against all of these biased views because I know how to fullfil a pit bulls eccentric life and create the correct rules, boundaries and limitations that they need as the ANIMAL they are, not the breed they are.
Animal, Species, Breed, Name. That is how natural balance works whether you want to agree or not, it's not Name, Breed, Species, Animal.
Learn some dog psychology before you blame an animals action that has stemmed from human neglect.
I am curious why they don't adress things like the below average intelligence of dog fighters. You never hear if a smart one and most appear to have mild forms of mebtal impairments or possible incest that causes them to be incapable if rational thinking.
They act like it's the dogs, but they let their far left government allow inbreds to breed and torture animals and all they do is whine about how they want more "social justice".
Aw, I guess they put Nipper to sleep :( he looked like he was so happy to be off the chain.
Only 1:20 in & already decided that this DOC was definitely not worth my time. Your RACISM towards the phenomenal Pit is shameful & I am astounded by your ignorance. I am the VERY proud Mommy to a 90 lb, 7 yo gorgeous Fawn Pitt whose Father was a Showdog who won 4 years in a row! My Louie is thee sweetest, handsomest, *GOOFIEST*, most loyal Mommy's Boy of a dog/baby anyone could ever hope to have. When a Human child goes off & hurts someone else, do you say "Oh, ya...ALL children are naughty just like that one." ??! Of course not! Just like Parent's are responsible for teaching their kids how to be lovely & kind, Dog owners are JUST as responsible. Those poor sweet Pits. It's not their fault they were born with an "aggressive" looking face! Dogs only want to love & be loved. These humans are the animals, not those innocent Pits!
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Very well said, thank you! I have 3 pit bull type dogs an American Bully, a red nose, and some kind of mix of pitbull breeds and each of them are the most loving dogs. The American Bully is the meanest looking but the biggest baby. She womt leave my side and she just wants to play with everyone.
Nope, not gonna watch it! I can't STAND to see dogs getting hurt while ignorant asshats stand around cheering them on! And from what the other commenters said, it doesn't sound like the reporter did that great of a job anyways. I love my Staffie, Lunabelle - and I have no stomach for people who fight dogs!
I hate these comments using words such as bully breeds I have a pit and she is the sweetest thing ever to people and to other animals...including cats and I even hate cats but seriously guys ITS ALL ABOUT HOW YOU RAISE YOUR DOG if the dog is aggressive its the trainers fault if it potties inside....trainers fault, chews on things owners fault, there is no certain breed that is worse than another all about how your raise your animals, COOOOME OOON so sick of people bashing Pitts my "Moon" (my female pitts name) is the sweetest thing ever she would kiss your face off if she could this dog has never been aggressive to any of my other dogs any friends family members or even strangers...which is a little sad my other two make great guard dogs but not her she just loves everything, my girlfriend did most of her training and she did an outstanding job that is why the dog acts the way it does all about training
100% correct my American Bully is the biggest baby out of my bunch. I have 3 pitbull breeds and everyone of them is an awesome dog that barely knows they're dogs. They think they are my babies. It's the only kind of dog I'll ever have. Love them so much.
This is a horrible documentary. The only good to come from this is identifying the breeders so they can be stopped. The pit is a powerful breed that needs a experienced owner who can redirect their energy. The people who feel the need to walk around and brag about how their dog can tear apart another dog have serious issues and the dog will end up paying for it.
stupid question maybe but how come some of the dogs don't attack just any thing/one, they seem happy to meet people and even be around other dogs? but then in the ring they attack the other dog on sight?
that's not a stupid question at all! it's a unique behaviour seen in pits and other bully breeds. teaching them to fight requires a lot of human contact, so they were bred in the victorian era to have a sensitivity to human emotions with an eager-to-please nature, while exhibiting extreme dog-on-dog aggression behaviours. hope that helped! :)
dog fighting to me is the most heinous crime it should be banned in all countries no matter how harsh steps should be taken. i have a bull dog and i have changed his instinct, instead of fighting he loves and greet other dogs.
If you just watched this, please go watch "Beyond The Myth" on youtube about Pit Bulls.
Dog fighting came to this country from Europe. They were originally developed from mastif lines THOUSANDS of years ago under Roman rule to entertain people by fighting bulls in pits (get it?). This is a horrific and hideous activity engaged in by broken and unhealthy people, but I assure you, American's didn't teach dog-fighting to the Irish, and in fact was accepted in most polite society, just like bear baiting until around the turn of the last century.
Its the Michael Vick crowd who did this to the Pit Bull Terrier breed and no one else. These dogs have sadly been ghetto fied just like America to be totally truthful about it. It's all the 'urbanization' of America that's taken place because they can't raise the bar so they've just lowered it so low anyone can stumble over it and the rest of us law abiding American citizens suffer for it all day in and day out in every facet of American life today.
There is no bar of excellence anymore in this nation. Anything goes anywhere anytime.
Find another country or make a difference
you guys all suck its not hte ****** dog its the trainer and after x amount of years they get mean around after thier about 8 or 9 they get nippy i just got rid of both of my pitbulls my mle was a big baby! and my female was more agressiv wierd
I watched this video today.I was horified and offended by what i saw. How can anyone treat these beutiful loyal inteligent funny breed of dog in this way. I am a first time APBT /AMSTAFF owner and very passionete about this breed of dog.I have owned Staffys and Roman Noses in the past.For over 30 years. My pitt lives with a Ragdoll cat loves Kids and is ok with most other dogs What more can u ask 4 in dog. I could ramble on 4 ever but my finger would ache.Its about time that everyone got off the Pitbull/Amstaffs back. Bring back the nannydog attitude and the trust/common sense .give this loyal breed of dogtrue respect that it deserves.Pitbulls make a better world. AUS/AMERICAN Pitbulls rule ,love them &they will love you xxxxxxx to all pittys & their responsible owners
People who train fighting dogs truly disgust me
Don't blame the breed from the evil for the humans who train them to fight and attack each other, the pitbull is not an evil breed however the humans who train then to fight show the evil of the human species.
Pit Bulls have the potential to be as dangerous as any other breed. They are very sweet when raised by responsible owners. I do not support the stereotyping of such breeds, every individual dog is different.
Dog fighting is completly disgusting, and this lady is also very ingnorant! I know some pit bulls and they are by far THE nicest most loyal dogs I have met, what they did not show is what training these dogs go through to become a fighting dog. It is horrifying the stuff these dogs go through and how they use other helpess animals to train them, including puppies, and kittens which often time they cut them up so the fighting dogs are driven by the taste of blood. Yes, some pitts are more aggressive than others but they all have different personalities just like all dogs, and people for that matter. man some of the toy breeds if those dogs were bigger they would be giving serious injuries to people! Yes these dogs have a high number for attacks on people and other animals but thats just because they have strongs jaws and have more of an impact, other breeds have just as high of a number but it is not seen as big of a deal because thier bites do not do as much damage. People should educate themselves! There is enough ignorant people in the world, I don't think certain breeds should be banned, I think people should have to get a license to own any sort of animal. Animal cruelty is sick and disgusting and so are the people that take place in it.
Pitbulls are not for everyone and should be only owned by people that know how to train them properly so they do not get this bad name, the same goes for rotti's, and any other type of these so called "bully" breeds
my cousin has a pit bull and a rotti and also an english bulldog and they play alongside his three kids now, and growing up too (when they were babies). They never had any problems- if anything, looking at their family, the dogs have probably had a hand in raising the kids as well lol. It really is about the owners, and not the dogs- obviously. these dogs were some of the nicest dogs ive ever met and my cousin is a nice guy once u get to know him- he looks intimidating to most, jus like his dogs.
This is annoying we all now know its the breeder NOT the breed for the vicious behavior. But still informative about dog fighting : (
i agree training and good socialisation is gonna make a dog more predictable in some respects..but im sorry to say that YOU are not respecting the fact that ALL dogs where not only bred for physical looks, but behaviour patterns too (with GREAT success i might add) and so we ALL know that some breeds where bred EXCLUSSIVLY to be fighters, and so tennacity/ferocity/strength/ and resiliance to pain where the traits that where looked for in establishing the fighting breeds...and this was further "inbred" into each progeny, meaning to make these "qualities" more pronounced, fathers would be bred to their own daughters and or brothers with sisters. This as gone on for HUNDREDS of years, so with training to be a "nice" animal, its a battle against its man caused exagerated nature, and so it also is why most attacks are umprovoked leaving no clue what caused the animal to go berserk. its just going with its inbred exagerated nature.
Well, I live in Stockton...but thanks for the inner city pep talk.
And I actually do not own a pitbull. Nor did I make a comparison to a chihuahua bite? The severity of other attacks is found, again, in the hundreds of retraction sections of newspapers. Rarely are these attacks done by a dog that is a pure bred pit bull. LOOK IT UP. I would show you proof but I am too busy leaving snarky comments online...
The history of the breed has nothing to do with anything? Im confused. Should we just throw out all our previous experiences and assumptions out the window? Oh, thats right, you believe in stereotypes. So, certain races and genders have limited capacity and skills that serve the few? Right?
Again, documented footage of what? A dog attack. Not necessarily a pitbull attack. I feel greatly for the victim, but the harsh, sad fact is that the dog only acts that way because its been chained up and mistreated its whole life. People get off on insanity and neglect right?
Older times Pit bulls were left alone with little kids Yes granted pits can be dangerous, they are the sweetest most loving dogs i know and i have never owned one but i have friends that do and i also train dogs. The only reason pits have a bad rap is because m*rons treat their dogs like **** they beat them they let them starve pit bulls are amazing dogs i don't care what anyone thinks they really are, i am trying right now to speak in front of my school about dog fighting it is the worst thing in the world how would you like it if you were stuck in a pen and had to fight another person to the death you wouldn't like it now would you. Pit bulls are an amazing dogs and i will say that until i die
Oh my word, an old lady's dog was attacked by a crazy dog. This must stop.
I want to say this in a way where people who plan to watch, have watched, or have commented on this film will actually listen.
I was attracted to this documentary to see yet another take on the subject of dogfighting, but within the first minute and a half I was completely horrified- not only with the footage but the insanely inaccurate portrayal of this breed.
Based on the comments people have left, the world is still completely devoid of both intelligence and empathy.
It is true that this breed is used in dogfighting. But the reason for that is in direct opposition to common misconception. Pit bulls are extremely athletic, but their even stronger quality is their loyalty. Once considered "nanny dogs" (they would literally be put in care of children), pit bulls are, as a breed, quite similar to golden retrievers. They are thus used not only for their muscles, but their endless desire to please their master.
...And look at what they get for it.
As for pit bull attacks, they are just as common as any another dog attacks. Start checking the retractions in newspapers or magazine articles. Do you know how many times journalists assume pit bulls are the cause of something- or even just say that it was to make headlines? You're telling me that we don't stereotype? Please. And compared to the top news story, how many people pay attention to a page of retractions? Sensationalism, sensationalism, sensationalism.
I am assuming I lost a lot of you awhile ago. If you are still reading this...consider it, look up the data, contact me- either to yell at me in an ignorant rage, or to really get some facts.
I'm open. You be too.
I understand how a dog acts is due to how it is raised, as I know a pit that is the sissiest dog in the world. However, if you are trying to convince people that pit bulls aren't dangerous, you are wrong. Yes, some are used for fighting, but more are used simply as a weapon.
I don't know where you live, but take a trip to the inner city.
EVERYONE has a pit bull, and everyone talks about how bad a** their pit is, and how much their pit would tear up another dog. They idolize these dog fighters whether you want to pretend they don't, or not. This is the case with %99 of pit bull owners that I have ever come across, and I have come across MANY. With the ONE exception previously mentioned, these dogs are used as a weapon to intimidate people and to make the owner feel bigger and badder. Plain and simple.
There may be just as many attacks from other breeds, but what are the severity of those attacks? That statement is very vague. Yes, there are other dangerous breeds, but comparing a chihuahua bite to that of a pit bull is moronic.
As for the history of the breed, that has nothing to do with anything. How loyal the dog is, also means nothing.
I don't understand how you can watch documented cases of this breed attacking and killing, or nearly killing children (and even adults in other cases), and say that people aren't empathetic and are ignorant. That's a VERY hypocritical statement.
I can understand being a responsible owner who is upset because you have different laws against your dog of choice, even though your dog may be harmless. But to leave a snarky comment suggesting that everyone who thinks this breed is dangerous, is ignorant, simply shows your own ignorance. Wake up and join reality.
Yes, people DO stereotype. And for good reason. While stereotypes don't fit the entire group of interest, they fit the majority.
I recently looked for a dog to adopt in the PA USA area. I FINALLY found a dog that did not seem to have pit bull in her. It was not easy to do. I looked into why there were only pit bulls in the ASPCAs.
Hold no to your hats...
The dog fight people need dogs who are not pits to train their dogs to kill. They cut the other dogs faces to entice the pitts.
My yellow lab has bad scares on her face. She was homeless for a time, had litters, and is a very strong alpha bitch.
I think she may have escaped the pit as a training dog.
Her name is Sugar.
I also hope they realize that although these dogs are fighting dogs, they are very much breed NOT to show aggression toward their handlers. This is actually specifically breed out of them. So anyone watching this needs to realize that dog aggression is very very very different than human aggressive. If you watch the pictures look how much love these poor dogs show their handlers even after all they have put them through.
I havent got far into this documentary, but i do hope they plan to show Pit Bulls that are NOT human aggressive.
I managed to not scream or hit something watching this documentary..but just bearly.And when it got to the "He poured water over the dog and connected it to an electric wire"..that was just,wow..sadistic,heartless sons of bitches we humans are.And dont blame the dogs,humans created the breed,humans created dog-fighting and humans are the ones who think walking around with a battle-ready pitbull in the streets is a status symbol. What we are doing to these dogs is 100% unacceptable.I dont understand in any way how these people can live with themselves.My dog is my best friend and they are watching their own dogs getting ripped to pieces and slowly dying a very painful death.But these people obviously dont concider their dogs to be their friends since when the dogs get f--ked up enough,they are happy to put them out of their misery..by electricuting it after its been fought to the very max and its bearly breathing. Long comment but this pisses me of so much i had to get it out there! Its a great sadness, this "sport".
Illigal from any point of view, and it should be made illigal to even breed Animals for keeping them in the house, pets are kept for our entertainment, we are Human and it is not our right to enslave another living thing for our own pleasure. Im openly against of keeping pets and see it as an offence.
We need to respect the freedom which is given to all the living by God/Nature and it should stay the way it was thousands of years ago. Stop keeping pet inside the cages. Stop beering cross breeding animals. It is inhuman.
What you're forgetting is how the psychology of domesticated animals differs greatly from their wild counterparts. Dogs are not wolves. They are fundamentally suited for human companionship to the point that they've been proven extremely adept at recognizing subtle human facial expressions, and acting on them. Wolves do not possess this capability.
I am staunchly opposed to people keeping wild animals as pets, but having domesticated animals is no more inhumane than having children. Our relationship is a symbiotic one. Many in fact suffer when deprived of human contact. I certainly care for my pets better than I do myself, and much of my enjoyment comes from trying to make them happy. If their enthusiasm for fetch, excitement whenever I first get home, and insistence on sleeping at the foot of my bed is anything to go by then they seem to be enjoying their 'enslavement' immensely.
In the 80's it wasn't the Pits, it was the Rottweilers & Dobermans. Lately the American Bulldogs are starting to overthrow the Pits, so I assume in about 10yrs they'll be banning the AB's instead of the Pits. In the 70's wasn't the "bad breed" the Bulldogs?
Every breed gets it ever 20yrs or so. All animals fight, it's in their instinct. These dogs fight in a rink because they were under excersized & they were weeded out of their litter while looking for the alpha dogs. No dog that isn't an alpha dog would get in that rink, PERIOD.
I love dogs, and I can't bear to watch the animals fight for pure pleasure. I wish all humans that DO NOT treat dogs like they are supposed to & that do not fulfill the dog's needs would be forbidden to own/have/take care of dogs.
Dogs, like lions need stimuli of the physical & psychological kind. They also need a HANDLER THAT KNOWS THIS. Any dog (whether it's a teacup Chihuahua to a Newfoundland) that is in the hands of a person that doesn't bother to educate themselves on Canine BEHAVIOR & get off their lazy ass to do something about the dog, can turn dangerous.
the ban doesnt work as it outlaws the dogs. these dogs despite suggestions from the documentary are not natural fighting dogs. they are forced to fight, tied up not well fed, beaten etc to make them fight.
pitbulls make great pets but in the wrong hands can me made into aggressive animals. i would like to highlight the use of the word made,
to truly stop dog fighting the dangerous dog act needs to be scrapped and a new law brought in to punish the dangerous owners and also to save the breed.
Keep the gentle ones, but fix them to let the breed die out. We must breed the companion and non aggressive hunting (sporting) dogs now.
hmm...
I have met a pitbull once, or twice. The one I've met was not any way near aggressive. Ive patted it, and played with him.
However, when I was a kid, a german shepherd attacked me.
It jumped over the fence and started to bite my pants. I was so scared that I stood still while watching its canine teeth growling at me.
A man came by and ordered it to go back.. then I was trembling on my way home from school.
I never liked a german shepherd after that. I prefer pit bulls.
When I was a little girl, I was eating candy & a german shepherd puppy bit me in the leg because it wanted my candy. When my son was 10 he was bitten by a rottweiller who jumped over a fenced in yard & on to the trampoline where he was & bit him all over his back. These were not pitbulls. I own a pitbull who would nvr, evr hurt a person. She loves people. She doesn't care much
for other dogs, but she likes my cat. So as a responsible person, I don't allow her to be around other dogs. To love a pitbull is to know their likes & dislikes. They do like most people though.
But they eat the ones they dont :/
Cruel subject for sure...Quality of Doc = marginal.
No, No No! This IS B******T! They are NOT made for Fighting, they are exposed to fighting through ret*rded f****g id**ts who are bums. They can't get a job cause they are lazy, so they make money off hurting these amazing,beautiful, and smart dogs.
I used to own a pitbull when i was young, i now have a 17 month old daughter. i dont think i would have kept my dog after she was born. But in the right enviroment and with the right owners , they are great dogs, and would have one was she was older
My family has owned many of the popular breeds of dogs,(rottie,dane,shepard,boxer,ect.)and i myself am lover and a breeder of the AM pitbull terrier.In my book there is not a better dog in the world.Many breed them,but dont know what they are doing and thats one reason why we hear about insane pits.Another reason is that they are being over bred because they are the popular dog right now and have been for many years.Some people have to many,and end up giveing them to any one who will take them,not knowing if they can properly care for them or have good intetions.My dogs are around kids from birth,so when they leave me they are well socialized with them.Most dogs bite children because they have neverbeen around them,and becuase they are smaller than grown ups,they think that they are other animals.So when they (the children)run,the dog is going on instinct and doing what man has bred them to do,and that is GO TO WORK.Ive learned that if a AMpitbull terrier attacks an adult,most of the time its been badly bred,mistreated,or trained to do so,also afriad.Alot of dogs bite out of fear.The problem is not the dog,its the hueman that is suppose to care for them.There should be laws for all dogs,not just the pitbull.If you are not a registered breeder, then any dog you buy should be fixed before you get it from the breeder.Also you should be atleast 21years old to own a big or powerful dog,and 18 years old to walk one.Cut down on the puppies and the bad breeders and owners then you cut down on the over population,the fighting,and the attacks on pepole.
I noticed there was a huge bias in the first few minutes of the documentary. I'm completely against dog-fighting and inbred (aka purebred) animals, but the vehemence and misinformation about pitbulls shows me the group making this film has no journalistic integrity. Very sad. Doesn't mean you shouldn't watch this film, but keep in mind the BBC is going for the 'show' effect rather than objective research with regard to the inbreed. The pit bull factory was interesting. The undercover investigator sure risked his life, though.
well first off in the end were they walked the dog, they did it wrong your supposed to keep him on the side of your or have him behind you when walking never out in front because its like a pack thing. also american pit bull terriers r some of the nicest dogs you can own they are bread to be very very nice to humans its just a--holes like the farmer boys and that rodrigez guy who breed and train them purley for fighting. i agree tho once they capture the fighting dogs you can put them up for adoption but its nearly impossible to make them normal again after what they have done and how they have been treated so putting down seized fighting dogs is for the best.
I agree. Dogs bred for fighting, no matter what breed should be put down to weed out the aggressiveness in the breed's DNA. The breed shouldn't have any problems with that though.
Since when does forced behavior effect genteic coding? Show me the data...
Pit bulls are GENETICALLY bred and what comes out is a dangerous breed of animal period. Some dog breeds you should not mix with others to create this frankenstein like breed of dog. Pitbulls are just that this bad mixture of breed. There are alot of breeds of dog that have been known to have serious problems based on the genetics of the breed, such as a breed called the Cavalier Spaniel. The cavalier is a Pug mix, their skulls are so small that their brain outgrows the size of their skull that the dogs go into epileptic seizures and die.
But people breed those dogs because of their looks because they are just so cute. At what cost are you willing to risk cuteness or an animal suffering because that breed really suffers with their brains cramed in their little skulls. That is cruel folks. Some breeds were not meant to be bred. Pitbulls are the worst breed on this planet purely deadly. At what cost are you willing obviously it cost the lives of children and other human beings. But why do you breed them for profit. Thats really selfish and sickening. I would not think about owning one.
You know nothing about APBT they are the best dogs there is.Its because of bad breeders and owners why some are human agressive.The dog fighters not that I like it but they had to be able to handle dogs with body parts missing and any dog that would attack was killed or culled what ever way you want to say it and that blood line was never breed again.In the middel of a dog fight the dogs had to be brought to its corner and washed and treated and the owners of the other dog had to be able to go to hurt dogs to make sure no chemicles were put on it that would give it an unfair advantage.Any breed aside from an APBT would never let anyone near it if hurt.Try going near a dog thats badly injured aside from a game APBT and see what happens.Just incase you don't no what game is look it up its the best quality a dog can have and needs to be explained.Its the owner not the breed.American Bulldogs were breed to fight bulls so were APBT but APBT ended up fighting dogs for 500 years.Its humans that make the dogs the way they are.People are different depending on there invernment also.I've had 2 APBT and now have an American Bulldog like both breeds but APBT are by far the best.Aside from the ones I owned my friend had the mother and father of my dogs and about 20 friends had pups also.The only thing is they need more socilization with other animals or they will be agressive.Read any book about APBT and you will see from people that have been around the breed because you obviously were not.They don't even make good guard dogs they are to human friendly unless made to be different.Well I'm not going to write a book educate yourself before commenting.
We're the opposite of you, our AB had to be put down because of an injury, so we have decided to go the APBT way since we've read a whole lot about them & they don't have the stubborness that the AB's have.
In general DOGS were bred from wolves to domesticate them thousands of years ago. From the domesticated wolf, humans bred them to develop the breeds that we now have to serve particular purposes. Terriers were bred to catch small game, like Yorkies were bred to catch rats ( jack rusells too & so on). Big dogs were bred to do jobs such as hunting that small dogs couldn't do, say swim. PITBULLS, AMERICAN BULLDOGS, ENGLISH BULLDOGS & other bully breeds were bred to be farm animals to protect the stock (cows & hogs).
That tasty steak that your ancestors ate; the cow that was killed was probably caught by the PITBULL, AMERICAN BULLDOG, CATAHOULA etc. and was held there until the farmer was able to get close enough to SHOOT IT.
The big dogs were bred to protect them humans when they needed to kill big farm animals that were dangerous enough to hurt the farmer.
Some American Bulldogs are used in the Southern USA to catch wild boars that destroy crops & hurt & kill HUMANS.
Weren't humans evolved to be the top of the food chain (i.e. killing all beneath us)? So animals killing fellow animals is nature...
the only thing wrong with your thought is that we are the ones provoking them to fight one anouther. sick.
You are completely correct. That comment was to merely point out how stupid the other persons comment was about how certain breeds have killed all of our "ancestor's tasty steaks".
But out of context, my last comment does exclude exactly what you said. (I also cannot figure out how to delete it) :)
i want my pitbull to be aggressive with humans and dogs, could u tell me advice''s ??!! or send me links !!
thanksss
Too everyone that says "Punish the Deed not the breed" and BBC is trying to put down Pit bulls thats incorrect. When you take 25 Dogs from a kernel BREED for fighting and seasoned fighters what do you suppose should be done with them? give them up for adoption? of course not, im sorry but they must be killed and not be allowed to breed. Put one of those animals in a domestic house hold and i bet you every other pet you own is gonna die. They must be killed
Before you post something as ignorant as this, please educate yourself. Your first reading should be about where the dogs Michael Vick abused are today. They were NOT killed based on what you assume. On the contrary, a group of people with common sense and dog knowledge realize that what most of these fighting dogs are doing is pleasing their owners in the only manner they know how. Dogs will do what you praise them to do. Did you know that most of the dogs were saved? Did you know that several of the dogs are actually therapy dogs now? Did you know that only a handful had to be put down? Animals are not an accessory. They are not here for us to do with them what we want and dispose of them when they're an inconvenience.
Im educated enough to know what I would not want to live with such an animal. Putting those dogs to sleep when captured is the most humane thing we could possible do for such animals. Very sad I know. You mentioned those dogs will do things to please their masters. Did the dog that killed the little girl trying to please its master? Do pittbulls that suddenly turn on their owners do this to please them? Or are they unpredictable and too dangerous to live among us. Not even Humans can always be properly rehabilitated and you want to stick up for a " re hab" dog. Up to you if you want to put that among your kids...ill get mine from a pet store
Its funny how you sit there and think that Pit Bulls are the only dogs that turn on their owners. I have worked in the pet industry for 15 years, including being a dog trainer. In every single class that I had ever taught I have never had an aggressive Pit bull. The dogs that I have had to instruct on aggression would be the most common family dogs such as Lab's, Golden's and Shih Tzu's. I have been bit by all three and have never been bit by a Pit Bull. I have also owned 2 growing up with my Chihuahua and never had a problem with us kids or my Chihuahua. People don't hear about any of the other dog attacks because Pit Bulls have an image because they are the chosen fighting breed so you only hear about them. So you need to truly step back and read up on some real statistics before you go and state anything like this.
I have met about 3 of the best fighters that fought under michael vick and they were sweet with me and other dogs. Nicer than my purebred.
Yea i believe...doesnt mean they wont go for your throat at the drop of a hat of it something makes them feel threatened
As opposed to any other breed and an internet troll for that matter?
...Do I need to repeat myself? SPENT TIME WITH VICKS BEST FIGHTERS, let alone pits in general.
Do your research.
So, no, they are not dangerous unless trained to be. And even in that case, their true hearts can come out. Take it from my young cousin that got adopted out of an abusive home... its the people you are around that make the person you are.
dog fightin bad!human against human
if i see a pitbull crossing the street......
i go out of my way to run them over with my vehicle.......
:)
If I ever see you I will go out of my way to run your fat smelly stupid ass over
You're clearly ignorant
So as you "love" these killer dog's, would you also given the choice have a pet Tiger? You are the ignorant one. OK maybe killing them is a step too far from an animal cruelty point of view. But they should certainly be caged, or leave them to roam the fields of the African plain's. There's no way humans should have to walk along the street (with children), and walk past these "dangerous" animals!!These animals are a "cool" status symbol, if your in a "Cool" gang!!Grow up....
If I see a dumb**** like you crossing the street, I go out of my way to run you over with my vehicle
I was attacked by a family american pit and he was brought up great, taken on miles of walks and this dog had even laid next to my baby and he would play, removing the dummy from my sons mouth, SCARY as hell when the dog turned on me and other members of the family, Iv been held at knife point before and I was more scared I was going to die when our family pit turned. I KNOW FROM MY EXPERIENCE THAT HE WAS TREATED SO LOVING! AND YET HE TURNED, I was sat on the bed next to him one min and then Im pinned down the next, he went for my throut 3 times before I managed to kick him off me, He was never hit, I KNOW IT IS THE BREED! And his brother, who didnt live with our family was even worse when he turned.. BE WARNED TO THOSE THAT STICK UP FOR THESE MONSTERS, I KNOW!!!!
Can sumone help me I have 2 pitbulls there great super freindly but when it comes to bones they fight eachother I dont leave bones around anymore and i brake up the fight and I am just wondering say if i left them alone or could not brake up the fight in time would they fight to death.?
i can help.....
get a gun if you have one and shoot both of them in the skull.......
it depends on how intense the fight is, we have two rottweilers and they fight sometimes too, but we just let them stop on their own. but in your case if it is really that bad, just make sure they each have their own bone. some dogs will fight to death and if not that you'd be expecting serious injuries. to prevent it you should keep them in separate areas.
i have a beatiful razor edge puppy thats very good around kids and loves them any dog can be evil like any person can be lets put it like this if your white and dont like pitbulls that means you dont like blacks if your black and you dont like pitbulls that means you dont like white a smart person will understand what im writing but my heart goes out to all the people that sufferd because of dumb asses
You know NOTHING!!! ID NEVER HAVE A PIT AROUND MY KID AGAIN:I was attacked by a family american pit and he was brought up great, taken on miles of walks and this dog had even laid next to my baby and he would play, removing the dummy from my sons mouth, SCARY as hell when the dog turned on me and other members of the family, Iv been held at knife point before and I was more scared I was going to die when our family pit turned. I KNOW FROM MY EXPERIENCE THAT HE WAS TREATED SO LOVING! AND YET HE TURNED, I was sat on the bed next to him one min and then Im pinned down the next, he went for my throut 3 times before I managed to kick him off me, He was never hit, I KNOW IT IS THE BREED! And his brother, who didnt live with our family was even worse when he turned.. BE WARNED TO THOSE THAT STICK UP FOR THESE MONSTERS, I KNOW!!!!
My question is...
How can anybody enjoy watching that?
I mean, seriously. Something must be wrong with them mentally... people who like to watch animals kill other animals.
And I agree with most commenters on this site. They need to punish the stupid, in-bred, sick people who breed the dogs. They don't need to outlaw any particular breed... unless they want to outlaw the particular breed of PERSON that finds this sick crap a worthwhile pastime.
WOW SO PUNISH EVERY AMERICAN PITBULL....BECAUSE SOME IGNORANT PEOPLE USED THERE STRENGTHS FOR EVIL THINGS...THERE STRENGTHS CAN BE MADE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT....BUT I GUESS THE PEOPLE IN THE UK DONT UNDERSTAND AMERICAN PITBULLS...JUST LIKE SOCIETY.... AND WHAT SOCIETY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THEY FEAR, AND WHAT SOCIETY FEARS IT DESTROYS!!!! HOW STUPID IS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it's how you raise one pit bull...i think this is one big conspiracy to get pit bull's to "history"...I'm personally against dog fight's,it's not human,no sport,no good,,,but I'm not against pit bull's..
so..dont be closeminded,and don't take every word from this doc. think for your self,,,everything can be used wrong,,,so can DOG'Z
i hope those mother f--kers burn in hell they are cruel.fuking lazy ass mother f--ker nedds his dog to fight to make money.lazy ass bitch get a job lozersss realy!!!!!!god is watching every thing what they are doing so they are f--ked up!!and they will burn in hell one day.i love animals and cant stand people doing this.why wont those people fight each other?cause they are pusssys and they still thing like they have ballls ha ha ha dum assses
not for dog bating but the journalist lacks serious logic in her arguments. Really idiotic
Good documentary if you wish to know more about dog fighters.
Downright idiotic documentary if you wish to know anything about pit bull terriers.
BBC sucks bigtime...aw well as BSL...this documentary only tells one side of the whole story.
i have a pitbull and ive had many in the past. its not them its how they are brought up.
why are you even talking gary v ban the breed an old-timer told me when i was a pup to listen and only talk when you are spoken too yes thepomanskennel
The only way to stop this is an out right ban on all of these breeds of dogs, get rid of the dogs & you will get rid of the problem. Make it a criminal offence to breed or own one, they should be classed as an offensive weapon.
ban the deed not the breed.learn and get ur self educated before say dummm s***
Incredible courage by the BBC journalist and her under-cover aid. It shows again how insipid the law-makers and their laws are.
i breed bitbulls, but i train them really well so they only attack on command. they are one of the most diciplined dogs if they are trained and cared for correctly.
"they only attack on command" Oh very clever of you. NOT. I have never heard anything so irresponsible in my life. Why would you want them to attack anybody or any thing ? No wonder these dogs have got a bad reputation with owners like you who train them to attack, even if it is only on command.
this doc sent me into a rage. it started from the cctv footage of that pitball attacking that womens dog in the shop. i totally agree. the onwers are the ones to blame. not the dog.
i would have no problem wading into that lot with a baseball bat!
news flash people,dogs have feelings to! next time you creeps get mad bite your hand dont take it out on the poor dogs what have they ever done to you? i have a pitbul and shes just so awsome i love her and we play all the time at the park i cant imagine a retard having her and training her to be that violent i just cant :/ i dont see you guys fighting each other you weenies learn to respect like come on seiously dogs are awsome just STOP treating dogs like that...
i really hate those reporters who just scream questions at people who dont answer. so annoying.
btw Duncan's kennel is still up and running. they have a website. wth?
This film shows the dark side of this breed and the scum who raise them to fight and the low life thugs who use them for drugs protection and biting people.
In reality this breed is loving and great with children
DONT BLAME THE BREED BLAME THE OWNERS !!!!!!!
i would very much like to confront one owner in that box, you can place bets as well, any interested parties???
alwas the same explanation it s not the dog it s the owner, well it's ..... you owners of them pitt bulls and staffords that are problem not the dogs, and if there wherent such stu..id people, there would not have been such ugly breeds as well!!! you'd be happiest if you could breed lion, bear and shark with pit bull and then it would still be 'bout the owners not the breed, right?
did the white little dog at 01:52 02:07 live or did it die :(??
it lived.... that was f***ed.
I have two Rottweilers at my machine shop and two American Pit-Bulls at home. Never have had a problem with any of the four of them. It's all about how you raise them. These idiots who fight them should get heavier jail sentences and fines.
this problem never finish until we educate the human. Problem is the human not the dog.
@Clinton
For a start having a 'faeces' list is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life. Secondly dog fighting is cruel whichever way you look at it, though I am not about to waste my time, outlying the reasons as you are clearly the 'narrow minded imbecile' here.
Another example of Media Sensationalism.
How dare you..
Narrow minded imbeciles BBC you are now on my faeces LIST.
This documentary is another example of Media sensationalism....
F**k you BBC..
Clint
AUSTRALIA
the pit bulls are not to blame at this..the owners are any dog can be used for fighting, just that pit bulls ar ebetter at it. Profesional pit bull breeders have a selection proces before breeding the dogs(any dog that shows unforced violence is castrated and not able to breed and spreed the gene).So its tru that pit bulls ar eused for fighting but thats becouse of the dog owners not the dog.
This is very shocking to see that these dogs are being pushed to an edge... where they are being killed not by other dogs but by the same hands that fed that dog yesterday..... For people like me who love dogs more than our lives this is breath taking.... Also its not the dogs which are to be banned it's those owners who make them fight who are to be punished..
I came across this documentary because i was interested in doing something to stop the illegal dog fighting in my state, I myself own 3 American Pitbull Terrier and i must say they are amazing, strong, loving, caring, will do anything to please its owner kind of dog. They mean the world to me. I just wanted people to understand that If whatever state wants to BAN a BREED then they cannot be RACIST about it. And the best way to STOP this illegal dog fighting is for OWNERS that want to own a certain BREED take a TEST to see if they qualify to get a LICENSE to own that PITBULL BREED!.... or any other!
AMERICAN PITBULL TERRIERS are AMERICAN HEROS! do your RESEARCH!!!
This is awful sensationalized AMBUSH journalism AT IT'S WORST! Anyone with half a brain will see through this program as just that, so I do not feel the need to write anymore than this: PUNISH THE DEED NOT THE BREED!
Watching this broke my heart...as did some of the comments that people have written !!!
I totally disagree with dog fighting,,,its inhuman and cruel,but so are we,as people...some of the status on here are just as bad as the people that breed and fight these dogs by saying lets just kill them,kill them all...WTF...Hang on right
FIRSTLY;... we are angry and disgusted with these people for breeding these dogs for fighting...and rightly so,but it was us humans that trainned the dog to be that way.
BUT THEN WE SAY;...Lets ban and destroy all these dogs,,because we dont like them...its almost like being racis against a certain race...Nazi's and Jew's spring to mind !!
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DOGS >>> DONT THEY GET A SAY !!!
Cant you see we're all at fault here,,who gives any of us a right to play GOD and decide which living creatures should live or die....It sicking to think that so many people are so narrow minded and shallow...that they cant see the bigger picture here...lets start killing murders again bring back capital punishment...Ops i'm bad,cant do that right,,,its against human rights,,,well i'm sure if these dogs could talk they'd say it was against there rights too !!! but hey s**t happens right.
Its just so sad,because this breed of dog have done some wonderful things..ie; Won medals in wars,,faught in fires,,trained to rescued people etc etc...but no one makes a doc about that and the good things they have done or do...i guess some of you would like to pretend it was some other breed of dog like s**t~shoe's excuse the pun !!
Just feel so gutted for these dogs and the life they have to live,not to mention the discrimination it gets...and the people who own acually care about these dogs and fight to help protect these dogs against some of the a**e holes on here !!!
This breed should never have been ban... but i do hope the people that train these dogs to behave like savages get there just deserts and whats coming to them,as too for the people who believe this breed of dog should be distroyed !!!
The documentary isn't trying to scare you about there breed of dogs its showing you the cruelty this breed of dog goes through due to these thugs and low lives having nothing better to do with their lives than animal cruelty.
I'm going to assume the producers are aware that we are intelligent people who will realize its not the breed if dog that makes them attack its how they are brought up.
WTF??? BOXER LAB mix?? cant you tell if its a f--kng pitbull?? are you kidding me?! and it still shipped..
For a start you never mentioned in your first post that the dog had tried to attack school children. By saying you "know the dog to be dangerous" it sounds as though your making assumptions about it on its looks.
I would also like to point out that just because they plan to breed it doesn't mean the puppies will be like the parent, its all about how you bring them up. However I do agree that if they are bad owners they should not be breedig their dog.
I'm aware that exemption and licensing is avalible for well behaved pitbulls but to get that the owner has to hand their dog over to the police while they go to court. The dogs that come back from these kennels are often full of wounds and are timid and depressed.
Good to know! Sadly this isn't the case for many people who report innocent animals that haven't done anything wrong which end up getting put to sleep.
I apologise its just a very touchy subject as I dont agree with the dangerous dogs act whatsoever.
LOL!
Do you think I'm s@#$%&?!?
1. The dog is aggressive and has tried to attack school children. I know all pits aren't killers you idiot! I have worked with pitbulls myself!
2. The owners plan to breed to pitbull.
3. Owners with pitbulls can get a license if their pitbull has a good temprament and is kept on a lead etc.
4. YES! I would and have reported a dangerous dog that is not a pitbull. Infact, it was a jack russell and it attacked me and my dog.
5. I know of an unlicensed pitbull who belongs to an elderly gentleman near my home and the dog is lovely. I would never report an friendly dog!
So please, maybe ask the details before you get so angry next time??? :')
i want my pitbull to be aggressive with humans and dogs, could u tell me advice''s ??!!
inbox m
You reported a pit-bull that lives near you? How heart warming, do you know that the dog you reported will be slaughtered along with the thousands of other innocent animals that have been reported by i@#$%& like you. How would you feel if your dog got reported just because of how it looks? Fair enough the dog may be aggressive but please remember that it is the owners fault not the dogs and it shouldn't be killed because of that, just rehomed. I doubt you would have reported an aggressive lab or dalmatian. Also i'd like to point out that just because the dog is a pit it doesn't mean it is a child or dog killer, how small minded.
This is disgusting and needs to be stopped. I live really near Liverpool and this is frightening. A few weeks ago I reported a pitbull that lives near my school. (I have nothing against the breed but I know the dog to be dangerous and they are illegal). Since then nothing has been done- I have photographic evidence and evidence of the owner admitting that the dog is a pitbull. He still has the photos on Facebook. This is so maddening and the police need to wake up and clamp down on this issue before another child (plus many many more dogs) are unjustly killed.
I love dogs no matter the breed.
i think people who fight dogs should be treated like they treat the dogs and then see how they like it. for the people who fight dogs and read this: you need to grow some balls and find something else to do with your time and money; it is bullsh** how you treat and make dogs aggressive; you should be treated the way you treat the dogs. for people who would rather give a dog a home then fight them, i congratulate you for standing up for them and giving them a voice. please keep up the work!!!
First of all please forgive my slang words I can not help myself, naturally the editor of this page has the power to ban them.
I think dog fighting must be legal all over the world. Of course not against each other but on one side the dog and at the other corner the cruel, life ignorant, useless, owner fighting dog breeder or what the f....g name they have. Oh you dog fighters you are so poor do believe me I wish I had the power, like in the movie you know prisoners hunted in a game, I would put you in that game and let that dogs hunt you so that you can feel the fear, pain and weakness. On one side the owner of a dog is spending handful of money, reading books, spending time to train it just for its comfort and not to disturb other people in anyway and the other useless, lowlife, manlike, creature electrocute it for losing the fight, give that SOB some water and electric and let him feel the nirvana deep in his a.. I reached this page when I was searching for information about Akitas now I do not want a dog anymore.
Also another thing always the same story Pitbulls, Japanese Tosa etc. are found guilty! No they are not, they can not be, if we were not exist also they would not be, if we would not teach them to fight they would not be so please stop accusing the breed. A lovable, hugable golden retriever also be vicious if you make it that way so it is not the breed, it is us, as usual...One day we humans kind will learn the lesson not to deal with mother nature but when I do not know and I hope I will not see that day.
Also shut those puppy mills for the gods sake, earn your precious money in a decent way...
These arguments are quite laughable. Firstly, NO dog, regardless of breed, can magically "turn." Dogs always attack for a reason, regardless of whether or not humans can figure out what it is. Secondly, when you hear the word pit bull from the media, chances are it's a mutt that resembles a pit bull.
In a 7 year study on dog bites, very few bites reported were actually pit bulls. They made up 1.89% of all bites. That's a very low number. If you look up the real, factual dog bite reports, you'll find that many breeds rank much higher in bite numbers than pit bulls. Even the much loved Saint Bernards, labs, chihuahuas and cocker spaniels attack more people each year than the highly feared pit bull.
Most dog fighters of the past cruelly killed any pit bull that so much as growled at a human. Obviously, they didn't want a dog that attacked the other man instead of his dog!
Pit bulls were bred to hunt originally. Then of course, dumb asses had to step in and bred them for bull baiting, hence the name pit bull. When that cruel sport became illegal, the blood thirsty humans then started to dog fight. Dogs are much easier to hide from the police than big bulls. Pit bulls were bred for gameness, meaning the desire to keep going regardless of pain or discomfort. This makes them the most flexible dog breed on earth. They are capable of excelling at any sport their master asks them too. Too humans, this means they do good at sports such as search and rescue, agility, weight pulling, dock diving, among many others. To scumbags like Michael Vick, this means they do well at dog fighting.
It's in a pit bulls blood to be aggressive towards other dogs. They have a slow maturity rate, not becoming fully mature until the age of two. So a dog who was previously friendly could suddenly become aggressive towards dogs at around the age of two.
A smart and responsible owner however, has them spayed/nuetered at a young age to prevent hormone caused aggression.
Bottom line is, they were bred to be dog aggressive, not human aggressive.
Mixed feelings about this particular topic. One thing I do agree with is that, the Owners are responsible rather than the dogs being pre-designed killers attacking our fellow humans for No apparent reason. The Only reason such savage attacks happen is because of the brain dead owners. - For a BBC production, the presenter was wack! Very sterotypical & quite patronizing actually!
that lady was way too uppity and self righteous, kinda ruined what might've otherwise been quite interesting.
really makes you appreciate the likes of louis theroux who tries to understand the point of view of people doing something really strange or wrong instead of resorting to moral outrage to demean people they disagree with
You people accuse the dogs instead of the filthy humans. Humans should be punished humans should be eliminated not the dogs. A dog is what it has been taught not what it is feared and and accused for.
i won't watch this, i know it will just piss me off to much.
i would like to see the people who torment and torture these dogs destroyed.
Someone should connect a pair of croc clips to her n switch on the electricity!
Get a sales job, thats what you do best, not reporting
not so ignorant
I dontknow were you are getting those stats from but they sound made up to me. There is no use in taking stats from Atlanta U.S.A for example and transfering them to the U.K
You seem to also be missing the point that these owners that you would have us believe to be 'ignorant' are making. They all understand that the breed is agressive, but it is an agression toward dogs and animals NOT humans!
As for your comment about how much damage they can do, well your wrong again, the mastiff and German sheperd both have a stronger bite force than the Pitbull. Its strength as a dog fighter was not its bite force but its attitude, they are one of the few dogs that will fight to the death, also they are very athletic, fast, smart and can bite and hold under massive strain. This grab and hold style does much less damage than a multiple bite wound.
Your comment about these dogs having thousands of years of evolution and instinct is a joke. There is no more evolution involved in a breed of dog than there is in a breed of the common rock pigeon! This chap called Darwin wrote this book a while ago, you should read it! Tell me, how old do you think the APT breed is. Dont you understand these dogs were bred fro the wolf, we humans chose what colours, what height, what weight, what traits, how fast, how aggressive right down to the last detail. There is no evolution in any breed of dog other than the wolf, wild dog, dingo etc.
Your comment about human agression is totally wrong, I advise YOU to do soe research.
I have owned bully breeds all my life, i have an APT and an English Staffy as well as a few other breeds and let me tell you, there is no breed that i would trust with a child more than a n APT or a Staffy!!
Dont be so quick to judge others of there ignorance or lack there of, I dont clai you are ignorant, only that you are cherry picking your stats and facts
YOU KNOW NOTHING, I was attacked by a family american pit and he was brought up great, taken on miles of walks and this dog had even laid next to my baby and he would play, removing the dummy from my sons mouth, SCARY as hell when the dog turned on me and other members of the family, Iv been held at knife point before and I was more scared I was going to die when our family pit turned. I KNOW FROM MY EXPERIENCE THAT HE WAS TREATED SO LOVING! AND YET HE TURNED, I was sat on the bed next to him one min and then Im pinned down the next, he went for my throut 3 times before I managed to kick him off me, He was never hit, I KNOW IT IS THE BREED! And his brother, who didnt live with our family was even worse when he turned.. BE WARNED TO THOSE THAT STICK UP FOR THESE MONSTERS, I KNOW!!!!
This is shocking, how can such a baised film be called a documenary? This is spin, plain and simple, it supposed to be about dog fighting but the focus seems to be on PITBULLS attacing people. For one the 1991 dangerous dogs act is BS, Mastiffs, Bullmastiffs, German Shepards etc were all bred to attack people. he Mastiff was bred as a war dog!! Yes its a gentle giant but its genes are there because its job was to kill humans.
Pitbulls, Staffies, Am staffs, Corsa etc were bred to kill rats fight bulls and fight dogs, not to hurt people. Its common knowledge that any pitbull that attacked its owner in the ring was shot on the spot and the bad genes would then be removed from the gene pool. Agressive tendencies toward humans was not a trait that was looked for in Pits. In fact its difficult to train a pit as an attack dog, there are many more compitent dogs than the dog fighting breeds.
This is propaganda I feel sorry for the owners and the dogs in the U.K.
If a dog attacks or, god forbid, kills a person then the owner should be held responsible as well as the dog be put down. People have been killed by labs, poodles, jack russels etc, dont believe me look online. Its NOT the dog it's the idiot owners!
Punish the deed not the breed
Get rid of the Breed.
Tears.
Human's are the most cruel of all animals on this planet. If you teach a human kid to shove a knife through anyone that he meets he will behave in exactly the same way as these dogs are doing.
It was real heart rendering when the reporter mentioned that after the raid 28 of those dogs were 'destroyed'. I don't understand, destroyed?! WTF! Why were these people who were exposed through this documentary not 'destroyed'? Why do they have serve ONLY 2-3 yrs in jail? Just 3 years for SO MANY lives that they took for sport? The guy who electrocuted his own dog should have been tried for a first degree murder instead. What kind of a 'sport' is it to watch a soul die with a million punctures and cracked bones?
May god give me the strength to fight such a**holes. Humans are the most wicked creatures of all.
While I agree that pitbulls are a breed that is bred specifically by some cruel people to rip into other DOGS (not people) its not fair to judge them on their past use. The fact that the media has caused such a frenzy over this breed is just pathetic when really most alleged pitbull attacks are not by pitbulls at all. Just because some people out there are murders and rapists does that mean that all the human species should be killed off because of the threat we pose to ourselves and the world we live on? No, because most of us are decent people.. my point? MOST PITBULLS ARE WONDERFUL AND LOVING ANIMALS. The fact is that as long as there are sick minded and cruel people that raise and train a dog to become vicious and dangerous their will be problem animals, its not the dogs fault!
YOU KNOW NOTHING:I was attacked by a family american pit and he was brought up great, taken on miles of walks and this dog had even laid next to my baby and he would play, removing the dummy from my sons mouth, SCARY as hell when the dog turned on me and other members of the family, Iv been held at knife point before and I was more scared I was going to die when our family pit turned. I KNOW FROM MY EXPERIENCE THAT HE WAS TREATED SO LOVING! AND YET HE TURNED, I was sat on the bed next to him one min and then Im pinned down the next, he went for my throut 3 times before I managed to kick him off me, He was never hit, I KNOW IT IS THE BREED! And his brother, who didnt live with our family was even worse when he turned.. BE WARNED TO THOSE THAT STICK UP FOR THESE MONSTERS, I KNOW!!!!
A few points for all those defending the breed. While it may be true that training is an important part of animals behaviour and it may be true that most bites are from mongrels, but does that still make it right to defend a breed that has been bread specifically to inflict as much damage as possible? Any kind of dog can turn but few can inflict as much damage as a pitbull, and once it decides to attack little to nothing can be done to stop it. Furthermore this is the fighting dog of choice and sadly I think that as long as it exists it will continue to be abused. This over soppyness has got to stop, for the animals wellfare as much as the publics.
Pit bulls used to be called the nanny dogs back before the media got ahold of them. Did you know that 99% of attacks that are supposedly "pit bulls" are not?
The most dog bites happens from..... the mutt. It's because there are so many of them, and there are many, many breeds and cross breeds who look like the APBT.
hello, i live in a so called dangerous area in london and most of the young kids in my area breed pit bulls terriers etc.. they use these dogs to protect temselfts from the police and from other gang members and in my personal opnion this is wrong, they beat them all the time and tell them to go bite a tree branch or they try to set their dogs on other people, police doesnt do much about this or they just dont care.
its not the dogs fault its the owner they teach their dogs to bite people and they treat them very bad from what i have seen. the police should do something about these young people, but all they can really do its blame the dogs.
There is something odd about the reporter...it's in her mouth. Maybe she had surgery or an accident? There's also her demeanor. It's like she's not 100% real. She is pursuing a good cause though, but it's something in the reporter herself that's strange...
About the topic itself though, I think we shouldn't punish the pit bull breed because of these evil people. Dogfighting is cruel, as are the HUMANS who perpetrate it. If we breed only even tempered dogs and treat them with kindness, this will be less of a problem.
This documentary is so sickening that I had to stop half way through it just to post this, the journalist in this doc-the women- is so evil I am convinced she is far worse than any pit bull fighter or breeder in the film.
This women uses the deaths of children to create propaganda against pit bulls, she is a real sicko and shows what is wrong with britain.
If they didn't ban breeds to begin with then the government could better control who has a dog because there would be no black market.
Dog fighting is not evil and neither are pit bulls, dogs fight to the death in nature like all other predatory animals (lions kill lion, wolves kill wolves, tigers kill tigers and so on). I had 12 dogs and sometimes they would kill each other for no reason, thats what animals do.
It is true that the breed plays a part of what a dog is capable of but just because a pitbull is bred to fight doesnt mean it has to. Just like most german shepherds are no longer sheepdogs etc. If you give the dog the right leadership, exercise and activites to engage in then it will be a happy healthy dog that is safe around people and other animals regardless of the breed.
It would seem there are quite a few comments here that are made by obvious dog-lovers... I myself have owned several breeds of dogs over the years and feel very sympathetic towards the animals portrayed in this film and there treatment - but what some of you are missing is what this breed is capable of - pit-bulls are naturally more aggressive than say a lab or a bloodhound... This is why the "breeders" choose this breed for fighting - it is inherent within them to do so. If you want to dispute this then it will only show your ignorance on the subject - I do suggest some research behind the breed and it's history before making a flippant comment towards myself. I do own an pit bull as well as a chocolate lab- both with obedience as well as alarm dog training.
Pit Bulls are not "evil" - but the sad truth is is that they are a breed that is statistically shown to be more aggressive towards humans - Labs, chows,mastifs and yorkshires are all capable of biting and attacking humans - At least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in 238 human DBRF (dog bite related fatalities)during the past 20 years. Pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers were involved in more than half of these deaths. (re: Pub Med)
Now think about how many pit bulls you see in your neighborhoods compared with say those labs, or poodles or setters. Pit bulls are not as common as other breeds yet are involved far higher rate of incidence.
You have to remember these are ANIMALS. Ingrained with thousands of years of evolution and instinct...
Point being - the breed of dog does play a role in it's capabilities - regardless of it's owners knowledge of dogs and how to train them...The media does make them out to be these evil creatures that maul and bite everything in site and that is not true - but they don't invent the stories or deaths that do occur with the breeds.
ive owned pitbulls myself and theyre no more agressive than the pomeranians that ive also owned.. ban the deed not the breed! i hate that people have this idea of how ALL pitbulls are, that theyre ALL mean and vicious and want to maul things all the time. no one should own this breed unless theyre experienced with dogs and know how to handle them, giving them everything they need especially exercise and obediance training.
I agree with ZooGal; this documentary just mixed up the dog fighting world and the attacks on people by pitbulls to create fear and misunderstandind when the two are totally unrelated. Fighting dogs do NOT attack humans and are bred to only be animal aggressive. The fighting dogs seen in this documentary were all friendly to the humans around them even though they abuse them terribly. The pitbulls or "pit bull types" that attack people are not owned by dog fighters but rather irresponsible unkind people who train the dogs to be aggresive to people and do not bring them up properly.
I have had bully breeds all my life and have never been attacked by one or owned an aggresive one. The only dog I have ever been attacked by was my grandmothers yorkshire terrier! Sadly stories of little dogs attacking people does not make the same headlines as an "evil" pitbull attacking someone. Its not the dogs fault in any way and they should not be blamed for their owners actions. Blame the human not the dog!
Worst documentary ever. Quote " 1/4 of the victoms were from pitbulls" so what you are saying is 75% were from other breeds......yet on and on about how terrible these dogs are...meanwhile you go to the fighting dog place and see how friendly they are to the humans, you see in the fighting ring how they don't attack people....the ones that Bite people are from the back yard breeders and wanna be gangsters that breed dogs that bite people, they think it is kewl and care nothing about how for over a century they were bred NEVER to bite a human. I hate the fighting rings but I hate documentaries like this even more that just install fear of the breed with no commen sense as it is breed abuse in and of itself. It is also people abuse as many good people with good pitbulls get attacked by fearful people that believe all the hype that people like you write so YOU are just as guilty! Chew on that for a bit!
Fair enough there is some dangerous dogs out there. Not only Pitbulls, plenty of mongrels roaming the streets and attacking people. 1 fatality in Ireland and that was a Greyhound attacking a child. I didnt like this documentry, it portrays every Bulldog type of dog a killer. Its only the last 15 20 years that these backyard breeders just breed there dog with another dog because it looks good. I dont agree with dog fighting either, its prehistoric. These dogs where not bred to be human agressive, just bred for sport. They are highly intelligent dogs, they are used for sniffing out drugs, bomb detection, acting in films and even herding Sheep. Give the dogs a break, its people with little or no knowledge that are breeding these killers.
What a sorry excuse for a reporter. Go back to selling something, or presenting the weather!
Shame on them all. Sick people sad story. Lets put the owners in a cage with a vicious pit and see how they fair. Hey just a thought anyone want to put money on that one. Ouch.
I just want to correct you watchdog, pitbulls aren't used because of their strength; that strength was bred into the breed solely for fighting. That is exactly what pitbulls were bread for.
Pitbulls have been always the victims of this game, sweet dogs by nature, used as combat dogs because of their strenght. The dog is as stupid as his owner, blame the stupid owner for the stupid behavior of the dog.
I agree with some of you folks on the breed. Look at Cesar's(dog whisperer)pitbull "Daddy'. He is the most lovable dog.
I don't agree with dog fighting, but I agree that the breed can live a happy and safe life as a normal dog.
I have a Siberian Husky, although she is not as rough and tumble as a pitbull, she has it in her breed to fight to the death. You can't stop a breed from being a breed, but you can stop a human from being stupid.
Poor dogs.
Stupid human.
This kind of think make me paranoiac against dog, even if I know there a not real resons, for the dog that I meet everdays.
PS; nice doc
of course they were smaller than the dog that killed the girl, they were real pit bulls..... not these man biting mutts that are being called pitbulls.
Very misleading, the game bred (fighting dogs) are not the dogs you see in the street attacking people. They are bred to fight other dogs, yes, but not attack humans- they are extremely human friendly.
I'm actually looking for a documentary to watch and i came across this. To be honest, I'm not going to watch it.
I grew up with an American Staffordshire Terrier and if I watched this I probably wouldn't ever recover. The dog I have now is a mix. The breeds he's mixed with are all "dangerous breeds" as if that exists. He's a good boy.
Idk, I guess I just wanted to say I'm glad these documentaries are being made, and I'll watch one day if I get the strength.
I cried my eyes out...
Rhonda.. I totally agree with you.. Its so sad.. My dog has so much love for everyone. As you are saying, Its so wrong to be afraid of these wonderful dogs, everytime I go outside with my dog, I meet someone who switches the side of the road just to avoid meeting him, and people who stare and say bad things, like "killer dog" "stay away from my children" etc.. I can almost burst in to tears everytime and I get so mad, because I know that my dog would NEVER hurt anyone ! and ive met alot of amstaff, pitbull etc. and everyone of them have been so lovely and wonderful..
in response to WTH...I owned an American Staffordshire Terrier, a type of pit bull...and you are right...she was the best dog we ever owned..very sweet and loving towards children...tolerant of small children pulling on her etc... This dog breed has developed a bad reputation and it's wrong. It is sad that we have to be afraid of these dogs because some evil person has made it aggressive, for thier own selfish purposes. People are the problem...not the breed..I hope these people suffer as they have made these beautiful, majestic animals suffer..
wtf im angnry now... why did they put them all down???
Stupid britts, just seperate them for a week, then slowly re introduce them to each other, like 2-3 at a time, then they are good, dogs are easy to recondition
Well taken care off pit bulls are great dogs...
if a dog is treated badly it will attack, it doesnt matter whether it is a pit or a lab
Terrible. I really feel compassion for the dogs. I wish we could breed the fight out of them if we must keep the breed. However, I wouldn't mind if the breed ended as a whole. It's just a breed, not a speicies.
what is wrong with people.... I have a pitbull and its the best dog ive ever had.. he is so kind to everybody, to children especially, even to cats and to other dogs.. Dont punish the breed punish the stupid owners that are using this wonderful dog to do these horrible things...
I think it's disgusting that people could be so f*cking cruel. How could anyone get any enjoyment out of watching animals suffer? Disgusting pigs. It's like these people aren't even modern humans, but some sort of primitive cavemen, getting pleasure out of watching this horrible act. The way these dogs are treated disgusts me on a profound level. F*cking arseholes.
it's not the dogs' fault it's the stupid owners
pit bulls and all bull terrier type breeds have always been victimised by the media and this is just another case of the media hysteria that follows this breed, good documentary towards stopping dog fighting but it is still victimising a dog which was once known as the nanny dog as it was so good with children, and in america where pit bulls are legal to be kept as pets, they are the top breed to pass the rehoming tests for agression. the problem we have is the way the dog is trained by people, but then again isnt it the same with all breeds...just another example of how theyre singled out once again
dog fighters are not the problem its inner city kids that are breeding from man biting dogs .fighting dog are bred not to be aggresive towards man who in the rite mind wouid want to stand in the same pit as a dog that bites people.
punish the deed not the breed